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Wednesday, November 8, 2023

Jesse Collins Widow Research And Will

 Will of widow Jesse Collins of Great Marlow. Will written 1838, proved 1843.

Says she of sound mind and understanding.

Executor to pay any debts, funeral expenses and probate costs she has.

To the sons of her niece Mary Brown - Henry, James, Robert and  William £5 each.

To Mary Jane Blackwell and Sarah daughters of her niece Mary .... £5 each.

To Robert, Mary and Jesse [Jesse is female] children of her late nephew Robert Harper £5 each.

Jane, Rebecca, Robert and Stephen children of her nephew William Harper £5 each.

James, William, Rebecca, Robert and Jane children of her niece Jesse Bavin £5 each. And to Jesse Bavin herself £5 too plus a chest of drawers, brass warming pan, a ... pot and all her wearing apparel.

To Charlotte Carter, widow of her nephew Robert Carter £10 and to Charlotte's children Jane and Robert £5. 

To Robert son of her niece Mary Carter £10, a plain oak chest,a pair of blankets, a pair of sheets, one quilt.

To widow Elizabeth Walters of Little Marlow £5.

To widow Catherine Butler late Catherine Carr daughter of George Collins £5.

Her silver watch to William Collins son of John Collins. This watch was previously owned by that John Collins.

All residual property to Jesse Bavin daughter of her late sister Jane Carter [presumably the same Jesse Bavin niece of testator mentioned above].

Executor Robert Harper son of her nephew Robert Harper appointed executor.

Witnessed by Henry Beckett carpenter of Great Marlow and W.L Ward solicitor of Great Marlow.

Notes:

Jesse was born Jesse Harper. She married Robert Collins in 1789  when aged about 32. Robert was a publican whose precise premises are unknown. He died in 1826 aged 73. Jesse was one of the executors of his will and inherited half his possession with other relatives getting the rest. Jesse lived in a medium sized cottage with garden at Marlow Common in 1833.

Jesse Bavin was the wife of turner / chair maker and publican William Bavin. More on him here.

Will transcribed by Charlotte Day and then summarised here by her from a will held at the National Archives, Kew. Research also by Charlotte Day.

Friday, April 8, 2022

Burrell Research and Graves Great Marlow


See "Research" at the bottom of this page to read more about these people and how they connect to each other.

Above - Harriet, wife of Thomas Burrell d. Feb 20 18(..4?) age 40, name Thomas is inscribed below but the other details too worn to read.



Above, another grave. Thomas Burrell. Smith of this town, d. Sept 9th 1776 age 48

ALSO OF

Elizabeth his wife d. Feb 16 1799 age 67 years. 



Above, John Burrell, d. Sept 30th 1819 age 52

"Under this stone here lies a stone living with GOD above/ built on the rock was such a one/ whom force nor ...   could move/Near this place lay the remains of ..

Thomas Burrell d. Oct 8th 1818 age 57 years. 



John Burrell as above. Another view of same.



HB 1850, TB 1860, ?B 186?



AB 1829, WJB 1865



 Above, Sarah Burrell died Mar 1st 1825 age 65 years.

Research:
Harriet Burrell née Badger married blacksmith and ironmonger Thomas Burrell at Bisham in 1833. They lived, and Thomas worked, in premises on the East side of the High Street, Marlow by what is now Institute Road corner. That year his premises consisted of his house ,"shop" as in workshop, garden and an "iron house" and was worth an estimated £10 a year. Thomas was baptised at Little Marlow in 1801 to Thomas and Alice Burrell. His family was however of Great Marlow origin. Harriet died between the 1841 and 51 censuses leaving behind several young children. Thomas's married sister Elizabeth East (married Charles East 1822) moved in with him to help look after the family. In 1841 Thomas inadvertently bought for 3 shillings some copper wire stolen from the cellars of James Bavin in Marlow by William Heather and George Perry. The thieves initially used the wire to poach game but having been seen by a gamekeeper and fleeing, they decided to sell the guilty wire to various Marlow business people instead. They were jailed but no summonses were sent to those who had innocently bought the wire. The family had had a much more shocking brush with the law in 1839 when that Charles East, husband of Elizabeth was found guilty of sheep stealing and transported. More on this case here.
 On a more positive note Thomas Burrell came to the rescue of one of the Marlow church bells which had developed a crack in 1849. An iron band was made for it in his High Street forge, and a man, perhaps Thomas himself, ran with the red hot ring to the church. There it was heated a little more in a temporary fire made in the bell fry before being successfully fitted and quenched with water. 
Thomas was the victim of a robbery himself in 1862 (Windsor and Eton Express 20th December 1862) during a town crime spree. Old coins and 45 shillings in current money were stolen from his premises, as discovered by his daughter upon her returning from church.
It is possible Thomas eventually took over the smithing and ironmongery business of his uncle John. 

The Thomas Burrell in the second grave photo (d 1776) was the grandfather of Thomas, husband of Harriett. His wife was Elizabeth (d 1799) who appears in a grave photo further down this page. The couple married at Great Marlow in 1757. Elizabeth was née Saunders. In her will written in 1794 she mentions her sisters Jane Saunders to whom she left £5 and Ann Cork, wife of John Cork whom she left £150 invested in stocks. A share she had in 3 cottages in Wooburn went to her son Thomas while son John got 2 sheets and 2 pillows. Her two daughters (unnamed but one was Sarah) got to share all her wearing apparel. All the rest of her money and property was to be equally divided between all her surviving children. Sons Thomas and John were made joint executors.
The John Burrell on the grave (d 1819) was also a blacksmith, the son of Thomas and Elizabeth. He left his stock in trade and business to his unmarried sister Sarah who also features in the graves above and in her mother's will.
John's will was witnessed by his close neighbour George Davis landlord of the Chequers, William Hatch the baker from across the road and attorney Robert Goldsmith. Executors of the will were John Mossenton the cordwainer (of Chapel Street) and Sarah the primary legatee.

The Thomas Burrell who died 1818 was the son of Thomas and Elizabeth, brother of John, and father of the Thomas who married Alice.
Alice is presumably the AB 1829 on the grave above as she definitely died that year.

The HB 1850 may be Harriet, daughter of Thomas and Harriet who was born circa 1838, and the T.B may be her brother Thomas born circa 1836.

Photos and grave transcriptions by Kathryn Day, research and will transcriptions by Charlotte Day.

More information:
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More grave photo posts for Marlow, Little Marlow and Hurley here
Will transcription posts listed here

Posts about everyday life in Marlow for the Burrells and others here including links to posts about specific trades, recreated trade and address directories etc. 


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Tuesday, March 29, 2022

1833 Parochial Assessment Great Marlow Quoiting Square / Oxford Terrace

 The original assessment working notebooks with related correspondence from 1833 (to be used for the 1834 parish rates readjustment) have been preserved by my family. There are handwritten corrections to circa 1839. The notebooks are fragile however so I am gradually transcribing it on this blog so it is not lost. I am transcribing the parts in the order that chimes in with other research I am doing.

Layout I have used is:

Name

Property

Assessed Annual Worth

Any notes by me in square brackets

By Charlotte Day.

Quoiting Place [Quoiting Square] and Oxford Terrace [in Oxford Road. Note the assessors went out of property order in parts of this section. They did not say which properties were in Oxford Terrace and which in Quoiting Place, though in many cases I do nevertheless know where the properties mentioned were located].

Widow Dolby

House and yard

£8

*****

Robert Wakelin [a bricklayer. Wife Hannah]

House and yard

£8

*****

David Jones

House and yard

£8

*****

George Reading

House, yard and sheds

£9

*****

John Boulter

Crown and Anchor house [pub] and garden [This was Oxford Terrace, in Oxford Road]

£8

*****

David Evans [a chimney sweep who employed at least 2 men by 1842. May also have worked c.1848-53 as a "fire defender". Biography of his wife here

House and garden

£5

*****

Levi White [Later landlord of the Three Tuns]

House and garden

£5

*****

John Beaver

Cottage and garden

£3

*****

John Suthery

Cottage and garden

£4

*****

William Bryant

The Lodge house and garden [Oxford Road]

£6

*****

Thomas Piggott 

House and gardens near the Lodge [Oxford Road]

£8

*****

Sir William Robert Clayton M.P [At The Cottage, later Quoitings House, not to be confused with Oxford Cottage]

Dwelling house with conservatory, stables, coach houses, coach yard, shrubbery, walks, kitchen garden, green house, lawn and other convenient offices [off Oxford Road]

£70

"A small cottage at The Cottage" [usually gardeners lodge]

£2

*****

John Lloyd Locke Clayton

Dwelling house, yard, stable, coach house, offices and garden

£30 [Oxford House?]

*****

William East

Six almshouses in the occupation of poor widows "if rateable" [Oxford Road, William presumably a trustee or guardian of these charity properties] each:

£3

*****

John Flint

House, yard, stables, coach house and large walled garden [probably at end of Hayes Place, which opened onto the side of Quoiting Square]

£15


Wood house and garden adjoining

£2

****

Robert Looseley

Cottage and garden

£5

*****

John Cox

Shop and garden 

£5

House in front, woodhouse, gardens and yard

£6 10 shillings

****

John Tanner Hitchcock [in 1832 acquitted on a charge of stealing an umbrella from a fellow drinker at the Red Lion in nearby West Street. He had simply picked up the wrong umbrella. His wife was Ann nee Badger of Bisham who died in 1847. John was of Colnbrook at the time of their 1805 marriage. A corn dealer. In same property, which he rented, in 1840]

House yard and garden

£5 

*****

Joseph Martin

House and garden

£5

*****

William Gunnell [Quoiting Place]

House yard and garden

£5

*****

James White jnr

Cottage and garden

£4

*****

Joseph Cox [wheelright, likely working for Thomas Cox below]

Cottage and garden

£3

*****

William Bavin [Quoiting Place, a chairmaker there since at least 1830. Later a beer retailer who moved to St Peter's Street to run the Two Brewers by 1837 and was later at the first incarnation of the Carpenter's Arms. For more see here] .

House, shop and shed

£6 10 shillings

*****

Michael Field [Marlow doctor and horse racing enthusiast. He died 1834]

House etc

£4

*****

Gilman [a blacksmith, no first name]

House, shop, Shoeing house, yard etc

£10

*****

William Ward [Quoiting Place]

Six Bells Beer House, yard and garden

£9 ( Read his will here) List of proprietors of the Six Bells is available here

*****

Robert Ward [Quoiting Place]

House and garden

£6

*****

William Creswell [Quoiting Place, he was a shoemaker, who had previously ran the Six Bells]

House and garden

£5 10 shillings

*****

Thomas Cox [Quoiting Place, a wheelwright. Had workshop premises behind this that don't seem to be mentioned here!]

Cottage and garden

£4 10 shillings

*****

Joseph Horne

House and yard

£8

*****

Robert Clark (probably a builder).

House and garden 

£6

*****

Richard Way [came to Marlow in the early 1800s from Ockley. Wife Rebecca. He died 1836, Rebecca in 1821. Richard was a farmer in the 1820s. I am unsure if he was still farming in the 1830s. Their son Richard was a carpenter in West Street (later High Street), while another son was a poulterer in the High Street - see here - and another a publican. For the latter see here].

House and yard

£5 10 shillings

*****

William Stallwood [died 1837].

The Three Logerheads [Quoiting Place. Three Loggerheads pub, later the Queen], house and yard

£7

List of occupiers of the Loggerheads/Queen - see here

This assessment continued in a second post here

1700s Quoiting Square residents here.

1700s Oxford Road residents here

1700s West Street residents here

To find all mentions of an individual or family here, use the A-Z Person Index on the top drop down menu. 

To find other streets/areas in the assessment, search for them in the Specific shops, streets etc index here


 For posts about everyday life in Marlow for the people mentioned here see the post index here


Sunday, March 27, 2022

Life For The Blue Coat Boys

 This post is about what school days were like for the boys attending what is now known as Borlase School in Marlow, during the 1830's and 40's. Why this period in particular? Because it a period from which we are fortunate to have some first hand descriptions of what it was actually like to go there. At this period, the school was almost always referred to in Marlow as the Free School or Blue Coat(s) school, occasionally as the Charity School. It was founded by Sir William Borlase in memory of his adult son Henry who died in 1624.  Henry was a one time Marlow M.P. Sir William established the school for 24 poor boys of Marlow, Little Marlow and Medmenham, with an adjoining House of Correction and Work House. The master of the latter would whip any offenders presented to him by the parish constables or tithing men, and provide work for the able bodied poor. The "idle poor", vagrants and petty criminals could also find themselves inside the House Of Correction aka a Bridewell. He had another important job, of also providing training for 20 Marlow girls in the arts of knitting, lace making and sewing. Actually a female teacher did the day to day duties here. This female education was the first part of the bequest to be cut down when the income from Borlase charity proved insufficient to maintain all of Sir William's institutions. In 1833 there were only 12 girls being taught for free by a mistress but, interestingly, they were also at this point being taught to read, in addition to "work". The girls were also then to be "partially clothed" by the charity. 


Our focus in this post is however the main boys school. It was known as Blue Coats because the "Charity Boys" were provided with a sort of uniform upon joining the school. This was indeed blue: a blue cape, tied with red tape, and a blue cloth cap with a red band. This outfit would have been a source of pride and distinction when it was first introduced. But by our period, it was a little anachronistic and as the boys were required to wear it on the way to and from school this made them the target of a certain amount of teasing from other boys. 



The Free School as it looks today, extended and with a different entrance to that which the Bavin boys (see below) used. The House of Correction has been demolished. 


Brothers William and Edward Bavin who attended the school during this period under master George Gale, dictated their memories of attending the school to amateur Victorian Marlow historian George Stevens. George Gale had taken over from the troubled William Francis, who ended up in gaol in 1834 for libelling a member of the Wethered family. Francis (Frances) seems to have had a knack for finding trouble. He had been in charge of the school for decades but the trustees of the school were said to be unsatisfied with him in the period before his arrest. A report by those investigating Public Charities in 1833 said an attempt had been made to dismiss Francis but it had proven unsuccessful as "no specific charges were bought against him". When Francis was arrested and sent to Aylesbury Gaol for 3 months, it was relating to a libel case that had rumbled on for 2 years. The scandal caused a lot of gossip in the town and it must be said he had significant support in Marlow. The charges against him were regarded by some as politically motivated and a subscription was raised to cover his expenses while he was imprisoned. It is in this environment that George Gale took over. 


George was described by the Bavin boys as one who worshipped birth and breeding. "His ideals were wealth, birth, and blood and he looked down on scholars as inferior beings". He is said to have favoured using military phrases and was not one to inspire his young students with ideas about the various opportunities their education could bring them. Instead he told his charges that many would hang and the rest would probably be soldiers! Physical punishment was a given, in common with other schools at the time. 


The trouble for the boys was that the curriculum for their education was created in the 1620s and it was still followed closely. Sir William had asked for the boys to be instructed to read, write and cast accounts. They were also tested on their catchecism annually.  Boys attending the private schools in the town could expect to study a much wider range of subjects such as history, Latin and geography. The Bavin boys remembered that they read several chapters of the Bible every single day, with the boys gathered around Gale in a half circle. Apart from this, arithmetic, reading and writing, they only had a few lessons in mostly military history, this being a passion of the master. But no geography, or languages, ancient or modern. The students stayed at the school for 4 years, at the end of which they would receive 40 shillings towards an apprenticeship. 

 

So how were the scholars chosen? The family of a prospective student, who was the right age (10) had to apply to the treasurer of the Borlase charity for a "ticket" for (potential) admission. They needed then to take this ticket to a majority of the 12 trustees to be signed with an endorsement. If the family did not find support from the trustees for their application, they could not proceed. At the annual meeting of the trustees at Easter, the tickets were reviewed and a certain number selected - twice as many  as there were places available each year. These were then taken to the Governor of the school, who personally selected the successful candidates. Places were limited to 1 per household, so Edward Bavin attended as a Blue Coat boy, while William attended as a day boy. This meant that William did not have to wear a uniform but had to pay a fee for his education. The master was allowed to take on as many fee paying pupils as he wished providing teaching them did not interrupt the business of educating the Charity scholars, and these fees were generally in this period regarded as a source of additional personal income for the master. He also had an adjoining house and garden for his use. In 1818 under William Francis the entry fee was 1 guinea and the annual one 25 guineas. William Bavin remembered that there was about 6-15 day boys attending at a time.


The day boys had to provide their own materials, but the charity boys were allowed a primer, psalter, new testament and 2 reams of paper annually. 


Once selected, the boys faced an unofficial initiation ceremony on their first day. As they approached the little line of trees outside Remnantz, in their tell tale new blue capes, they would be seized arm and leg by 4 boys while a fifth grabbed the head. They were then "bumped" up the row of trees. This was said to be a very old tradition, but it was ended when a parent complained. 


The other tradition was said to be the heavy drilling of the young boys as to the right answers to the (rehearsed) questions they would receive during their annual religious examination in the parish church. The boys were marched there in uniform, the day boys excused this experience. Given the amount of Bible reading the boys did, it's hard to imagine there was much they didn't know!


Written and researched by Kathryn Day. 


To find all mentions of an individual here use the A-Z Person Index in the top drop down menu. 

For other school related posts see the listing here

For a list of over 70 old schools in Marlow see here

1850s night school for agricultural labourers and the Regency adult education institutions Here



Sources include:

Borlase, William Copeland - The descent, names and arms of Borlase (G.Bell & Sons, 1888)

Buckler, John Chessell . Sixty Views of Endowed Grammar Schools (Hurst, 1824.)

Carlisle, Nicholas Concise Description of the Grammar Schools of England 1818

Public Charities, an analytical digest. Commission on Charities and Education of the Poor, 1842. 

South Bucks Standard August 1896. 

Windsor and Eton Express 29 November 1834

Family Almanack and Educational Register, 1854. 

Kelly's Directory, 1847. 

 

Thursday, December 2, 2021

Traveller's Friend AKA Traveller's Rest Dean Street

 Updated by Charlotte November 2024

The Traveller's Friend [sometimes mistakenly referred to as the Traveller's Rest which was actually a different pub in nearby Chapel Street. This was itself sometimes mistakenly called the Traveller's Friend], was a small beer house and low lodging house in Dean Street Marlow, an area dense with other sellers of alcohol, and other low lodging houses. The establishment wasn't the absolute roughest of the Dean Street places but it wasn't far off. Repeatedly the men lodging there were described as tramps or vagrants. They often got in trouble for being drunk and disorderly. It should be understood however that the poorer and shabbier dressed you were the more quickly you would be targeted by police if thought to be tipsy. Drunken rich people generally were advised just to go home and sleep it off, it being considered not fair to embarrass them by making them appear in court to answer charges. The sort of destitute people who used this pub would usually receive no such kindness and were often drinking on a empty stomach which meant a rapid absorption of alcohol. 

The pub was fairly close to the corner of Spittal Street and Dean Street, just a few feet from the Cherry Tree, the Jolly Maltsters and later the Chairmaker's Arms too. That was 12 ft from the Cherry Tree and 9ft from The Mint across the road to be precise.

There was only three bedrooms in the property so if you stayed there you weren't getting a bed let alone a room to yourself.

Out back the pub had stabling for three horses though visitors were most likely travellers on foot. Many Dean Street pubs hired out sheds and stables to other residents of the street who had donkeys or ponies for use in their veg hawking, cherry selling or skewer making businesses.

There was a back alley entrance to the Travellers from an alley that also ran behind and could be accessed from the nearby Cherry Tree. This alley was eventually forcibly stopped up as it was seen as a place for bad behaviour such as the exchange of stolen goods or as a means of a quick getaway from the police.

Charles Hoare ran the business from at least 1861 to at least 1864. At other times he ran the Three Horseshoes in Gun Lane and the Bear in Chapel Street both very near the Traveller's. (See this post on his wife Charlotte here). The pub had probably existed as an unlicenced lodging house for some twenty years before Charles took over.

 William Price was the landlord for some time. (Possibly from 1864) He said in an 1871 licencing hearing that he had had a licence to sell beer by retail for some 20 years, although it would appear he was not at the Traveller's premises all of that time- he was at the Cherry Tree in 1861 ( See here ). He was also a fruiterer, a very Dean Street occupation - in the late 1840s there had been an orchard out back of the Cherry Tree and there may still have been one later. At one point he and his wife Lydia had trouble with one of their guests whom William suspected of stealing wood from the yard at the Traveller's. William offered to fight him, Lydia politely asked him to leave but he would not. Police had to be called.

William died at the pub in 1874 . Lydia took over the licence. This was a technical detail as she was already described long before that as the landlady but previously only William's name was on the licence. She ran the premises for only a short time before her tragic and horrific death at Bourne End Station later that year, aged 65. On the way to visit her daughter in Goring, she was dragged under the wheels of a departing train after risking a dart back to it, apparently to retrieve something forgotten in the carriage. Her injuries were such that the elderly lady stood no chance of survival. Her son Thomas took over the beer house. Then by 1877 came a William Price followed by a Henry Price (also a dealer in fish, poultry and veg) landlord until 1894 when a Charles Price took over temporarily. He was considered to have conducted the premises badly, allowing things to get close to riotous inside so that his attempts to take over the pub permanently got short thrift from the magistrates. The revelation by the police that Charles had once been convicted of poaching (albeit 8 years ago) and had recently been seen walking into town with two notorious poachers and an unexplained three dozen dead rabbits didn't exactly help matters. Henry Price had to take back the licence. There then followed an unsuccessful attempt to transfer the premises from Henry to Richard Wilson, a coffee shop proprietor from London. It seems the magistrates did not want someone inexperienced in charge of a house that was described as a haunt of poachers and the favourite drinking hole of all the "lowest" people in Marlow. When it emerged that Richard had not yet managed to sell the coffee business when he applied to take over the Friend, that was it. The only thing worse than an inexperienced host on the premises, was an inexperienced host who wasn't even going to be able to be on the premises  because he had other business to attend to at the same time in a different town. After Richard informed the Bench he hadn't secured a buyer, a hold over was given to George Stroud. 

In 1897 it was licensed as a common lodging house for a maximum of 6 lodgers but anecdotal evidence suggests this limit was often exceeded.

The poor state of the building meant significant repairs were needed in 1901 if authorities were to permit it to continue to operate. During the works the then proprietors Annie and George Stroud (from 1894) had to move out. They were forced to stay in a Dean Street house left empty after it too had been condemned as being unfit for human habitation. In the end, the Travellers Friend was practically rebuilt at a cost of £400 in order to satisfy the authorities. 


Above, now a cycle shop, the former Travellers Friend, largely rebuilt 1901. There was 2 doors on the front and one at the side after the rebuild.

Maybe the Strouds enjoyed their enforced hiatus from their beer house business as some of the Dean Street customers were a lot of trouble. In 1901 Annie was threatened with being hit with a beer cup by an itinerant woman. This woman along with her husband was allowed to purchase beer on the premises but refused lodgings there as they had caused trouble during a previous stay. The complaining woman when turfed off the premises retaliated by smashing the window of the Traveller's Friend.

The next year the spruced up pub ceased to be used as a lodging house. Officially that is. I found a lodger referenced in 1908! The original dedicated lodging house portion attached to the main part of the premises was removed in the renovations. The works also gave the pub a separate jug and bottle entrance for takeaway alcohol. At this point the pub had three bedrooms and a stable that could take 3 horses.

A James Humphrey, who took over from George Stroud in 1902*, was there until 1904. Humphrey passed the premises onto Frederick Clifton after a brief hold over of the licence was granted to William Henry Noble. Fred Clifton passed it on again the following year to William Henry Blair. In 1906 Frederick Elmy took over briefly.  John Henry Westman had it in 1907-1909 and was the final landlord. 

The pub was forcibly closed in 1909 under local measures intended to reduce the concentration of beer retailers in any area. As mentioned above, it was described as 9 yards from the Mint and 12 yards from the Cherry Tree, 73 yards from the Cross Keys in Spittal Square plus 33 from The Verney Arms. It was selling 59 barrels a beer a year at this point.

One of the reasons counted against its remaining open was the high turnover of landlords in the proceeding 5 years of its life.

When the Travellers was closed down in 1909 it became Alfred Lee's grocers (later Chapple's general store) with his dairy behind. David Webb the corn merchant occupied the adjacent building to the left, now demolished, (later Hoars cycle shop.)

*George Stroud and his wife moved to Cambridge Road by 1907 when George was fined for using "disgusting" and "indecent" language in front of several witnesses. He said then in his defence that he had run The Traveller's Friend for 8 years without any complaint against him or his conduct.

Related Posts: 

Travellers REST here

 Pub Related post index here 

Posts about life in Dean Street and neighbouring streets here

More beer sellers than bakers -Temperance in Marlow here

Lists of posts about everyday life in old Great Marlow here

 Many many Marlow publicans and beer sellers etc had connections as a family or as an individual to several different premises. There was a high turnover in licence holders at many locations! To find all mentions of your ancestors here, see the A-Z person index on the top drop down menu. This lists more than 4000 individuals from Marlow's past and new content is added daily. 



Sources:

Censuses from my transcriptions of microfilm images of census pages supplied by the LDS at a Familysearch family history centre.

Bucks Herald 11April, 29th August and 11 July 1874, South Bucks Free Press 22nd September 1865, South Bucks Standard 4th January 1901, 16th February, 13 April and 8th June 1894, 8 October 1897, 4th January 1901, 1st and 22nd August 1902, 27 May and 13th April 1904,26 May 1905 13th March 1908, 05 March 1909 at the British Library via the BNA. Accessed July 2020.


Property deed/sale research and licence hearing reports. 


©Marlow Ancestors. 

Note: There was also a similarly named Traveller's Rest at Wheeler End, and also at Wooburn.


Previously published pub related posts can be found under the Pub Related option on the top drop down menu. Many many Marlow publicans and beer sellers etc had connections as a family or as an individual to several different premises. There was a high turnover in licence holders at many locations! To find all mentions of your ancestors here, see the A-Z person index on the top drop down menu. This lists more than 4000 individuals from Marlow's past and new content is added daily. 





Thursday, July 29, 2021

List Of Landlords Of The Two Brewers, and Fishermen's Retreat Hotel, St Peters Street. *Updated*

Updated August 2025

THE TWO BREWERS


This building is still in existence and still trading as a pub.

1755 claimed start date for the pub 

1770 - John Ireland landlord

1772 - used for an auction

1776 - Passing mention in the Oxford Journal, it is hosting an auction. 

 1795 - William Carter or Widow  Carter. Building has arched cellar, walled garden, and spacious stabling. Premises up for sale in this year. It's "extremely commanding and advantageous situation" at the foot of Marlow Bridge is emphasized. Owner was the late deceased maltster Henry Smith who had had a malt house in the High Street.

 1823 - G. Hawkins. Other source say John.

 1824 - John and Mary Hawkins. 

 1826 - John Hawkins who died of  Smallpox that year.

1831 - Mary Hawkins, John's widow (nee Hewett).

1833 - Richard Bye. Marries Mary Hawkins who is widowed. Widow of John Hawkins. More on this couple in a post here.

1837 - William Bavin. Previously a chairmaker. Went to first incarnation of Carpenters Arms c1843. See also The Clayton Arms.

1839 - Samuel Hobbs  See his grave here In the 1833 Parish Assessment a Samuel Hobbs is listed as an occupier of a cottage elsewhere in St Peters Street. Samuel seems to have come from High Wycombe originally.

 1844 - Samuel Hobbs "Duck Lane"

 1851- Elizabeth Hobbs. Widow of Samuel above.  See her grave here

 1853 - Elizabeth Hobbs.

 1854 - William Truss (also a sexton).

 1862 - bottle of gin and 10s stolen from till while Mrs Truss away from it. 

 1869 - William Truss.

 1871 - John C Truss.

 1883 - John Clark Truss.

 1894 - John Clark Truss.

 1896 - J C Truss 2. William Truss.

 1899 - E. S. Truss.

 1902-1910 - final stop for many  motoring clubs on their regular  "runs". 

 1903 - Emily Sophia Truss. At this point John Clarke Truss (below) was letting apartments at neighbouring Weir House.

 1907 -  John Clark Truss - bellringer too.

 1911 - John Clark Truss (Junior)

1914 - John Clark Truss is also a boat proprietor.

 1915 - John Clark Truss. In this year severe floods mean the pub can for a while only be accessed via a raised plank walkway. 

 1918 - "late J C Truss"

1925 ? - John C Truss. Died 1939 at Weir Cottage after retiring from the Two Brewers just over a decade before. After retirement he became a traveller for the Wethered's Brewery.  

c1926 Thomas Alfred Neate takes over. 

1939 - Thomas Alfred Neate

1952 - Thomas Alfred Neate retires, but stays in Marlow. He died 1959. 

1958 - H.H Gummer



The Two Brewers, above, on right.

To see a small sample of the historic graffiti carved into a wall at the Two Brewers, see here

THE FISHERMAN'S RETREAT HOTEL /FISHERMENS RETREAT (the latter rendering of the name was on the front but the other was often used too).


This was opened by William Spark(e)s in 1873 after his former premises The Barge Pole in Church Passage became due for demolition. Originally described as a "first class boarding house". It was converted from a house. William also spent time in charge of the Black Boy in Church Passage. (You can read a post about the Spark(e)s family here ) Referred to as Fisherman's Arms in the 1877 Post Office Directory. Housing is now on the site. It was very close to the Two Brewers. Some evidence points to the fact that it was commonly if not officially known as The Barge Pole for the first couple of years. It was also frequently recorded as The FishermEns Retreat, a name which appeared above the door but FishermAns Retreat is the form which almost invariably appears in advertising and at licensing hearings. The owners probably gave up correcting this! Despite becoming increasingly up market, it was still used as a "local" drinking hole by working class residents in the first 15 years or so. This is pointed to by the names and occupations of people drinking there who are mentioned in passing during court hearings, news reports, inquests etc. They include labourers and others who also lived in St Peters Street for example. (E.g "jobbing man" of St Peters Street John Lloyd in 1880) 

1873 - William Sparkes (Read a detailed post on him here)

1875 - William Sparkes dies, widow Maria takes over. See his grave here

1877 - Maria Sparkes, widow. In this year the retreat hosts the inquest relating to death of young labourer Timothy Young at Marlow Place. He was killed when the 10ft high brick and flint garden wall he was employed to help demolish collapses upon him. He was trapped from running away by some shrubs planted nearby. Other workers were also injured. This is during improvement works at Marlow Place when it is converted back to a house after spending much time as a school. 

1878 - described by The Field as an economic and comfortable place to stay, especially for anglers. 

1879 - "As cosy a retreat from the cares of the world as a man may desire" - Bells Life in London and Sporting Chronicle. 

1880 - Albert D Symes.  Still described as a "public house" during court case this year. Transfer to John "Hodenot" - see below

1881 - John Hoddinott (Born Balcombe, Somerset) John is a keen angler himself. 

1882 - John is assaulted by John Neighbour and Walter Bowles who are reluctant to pay for the beer, mineral water and cigars that they have consumed. Neighbour is convicted of pushing John and spitting in his face while Bowles breaks a window at the Retreat. Both are fined with the threat of 14 days imprisonment if the fine is unpaid. After the window is broken, the police are called and Neighbour and Bowles decide to pay but the damage has been done. 

1885 - John and Elizabeth Hoddinott cater for 40 guests each day at breakfast during a busy August weekend. 

1887 - hosts Fire Brigade dinner, one of many such events. 

1880's - frequently used as retreat after racing for regatta crews as well as visiting societies and clubs on their annual river outings. 

1891 - John Hoddinott ( John died in the 1890's Flu pandemic. For more on the outbreak, see my post Here ) Described as one of the most comfortable hostelry on the river (Evening News, May 1891)

1895 - Has collection box on the premises for Marlow Cottage Hospital. Both the Hoddinotts were frequent in their own financial and practical donations to the hospital. "Fishermen's Retreat Hotel"

1903 - Mrs Elizabeth Hoddinott, John's widow. 

1907 - Mrs Elizabeth Hodinott qv





1911 - Elizabeth Hoddinott

1915 - Recommended for closure without compensation as fully licensed premises, by Renewal Authorities of County Licensing Committee, continues as hotel however.

1920 - the Misses Hoddinott

1927 - described as "residential hotel". Does also take short term guests however. 

1932 - up for sale. It then comprises 8 bedrooms, one good bathroom, a office-reception, lounge, dining room, sitting room, kitchen and 3 servants bedrooms. Outside there is a barn, garage and stabling. 

1933 - substantially altered, updated and extended, with new entrance door (the one currently for Duck Lane House). It was discovered the existing Retreat was in a bad state  of repair. New supplies of hot and cold water, new sanitary fittings and electric lighting were all put in.  Architect for this work was G Berkley Wills of Marlow, with local builder R H Harris & Co as the principal contractor. We are told the finished property was decorated throughout with a colour scheme centered on "dove grey", the 1930s equivalent of Magnolia. The other two entrances were added later, when the property was extended again. 

1939 - Mrs Dorothy Herbert. Private Hotel. 


Researched by Charlotte Day and Kathryn Day.


This post is updated as new information emerges. All listings are as noted in original sources, including alternative spellings. Where multiple sources list an individual's name, only the first and last mention are listed here unless there is any alteration in how they are recorded, for example when an additional occupation is noted. Note that some listings may in fact refer to fathers and sons sharing the same given name so be sure to double check this. 

Many Marlow landlords changed premises and there can be other family members running other establishments. Some places changed how they described themselves - or how they were viewed - and so licensed premises listings here take in not just beer houses, pubs and inns but common lodging houses and hotels too. We mainly focus on pre WW1 listings but sometimes list later names if it ties in with research we are helping with. To find every mention of an individual here, use the A-Z Person Index in the top drop down menu. There's 3,000 people listed there currently! 


SOURCES -

1853 Mussons and Cravens Commercial Directory, (compiled 1852).

Kelly's Post Office Directory- 1859,1864,1869,1877,1899,1903, 1907,1911,1915,1920. Published by Kelly's Directories Limited.

Dickens Dictionary of the Thames from Oxford to the Nore (1880 Edition, issue 2)

Census 1881,1891. Transcribed from microfilm by Jane Pullinger.

Historic newspapers, held at the British Library and accessed via the BNA March 2021:

Bucks Herald - 13 May 1837, 9 Jan 1915, as above. 

Reading Mercury - 6 & 20 July 1795, as above. 

Oxford Journal - 24th June 1826, as above

Maidenhead Advertiser 14 April 1877, 26 August 1885,  as above

Robson's Directory 1839, 1844. Via University of Leicester Archives.

South Bucks Standard 7 June 1895, as above

Sunday Mirror 26 June 1927. 

Morning Post 18 June 1909

Pigots Directory 1823

Weekly Dispatch London 26 June 1927. 

©Marlow Ancestors. 



Friday, July 16, 2021

Last Orders! Spittal and Chapel Street Landlord listings


UPDATED APRIL 2026 BY CHARLOTTE

Premises with an address in one of these two street are frequently referred to being in one or the other street alternately. They run into each other and the boundary was obviously more fluid than today. Occasional mentions are to Spittal Street by the name of St Thomas Street, referring to the medieval hospital that gave it's name to the area. Buildings in Chapel Street furthest from the town may be referred to as being in Chapel End, or less often Town End. Those at the junction of the two roads were technically in Spittal Square, previously known as the Common Slough. Confused yet? If the premises you are interested in isn't here, it will most likely have its own post eg The Greyhound, and two White Hart pubs . For a full list of old licensed premises, take a look at this long list on the blog here

Other pub content can be found under the Pub Related menu option in the top drop down menu. 


BLACK HORSE, Chapel Street

Given as Spittal Street nearly half the time. Also a common lodging house in both incarnations. Note: there was also a Black Horse in the parish of Little Marlow. 

1833 - William Higgins

In second incarnation:

1881 --1. Henry Rowe  (See also Bricklayer's Arms and The Bear, below) 2.George White. Age 31, wife Annie.

1882- George White 2. ( James?) David Cox

1883 - James Plumridge?

1884 - 93 James David Cox and his wife. In 1892 James refused to take some chickens in payment of beer after rightly suspecting that they were stolen.

1893 - James David Cox to William George Yates

1897 - W G Yates to A H Wright (holdover, Albert H Wright) 

1898 -A H Wright to Mr Gurney (holdover again). 2.  Alfred Sarney (see also the Carrier's Arms)

1899 - 1. Alfred Sarney 2. James Burton Shaw. In this year the Marlow Urban District Council, based upon the recommendation of the medical officer, decided that part of the premises should be registered as a common lodging house for men only. Certain alterations would be necessary to bring it to the required standards, and the owner of the premises signalled a willingness to follow through with this plan. It was indeed so registered. 

1900 -1. James Burton Shaw. 2. George Lewis. In this year the Horse got mains water for the first time. It had previously relied on a well which was considered to leave something to be desired. 
Above, the Black Horse occupied the premises that house Chic Hair in this image. 

1902 - The councils sanitary inspector reported that the condition of the premises was "much improved"

1903 2. George Lewis. 2. Thomas Lewis? proposed transfer to Joseph Ball. 

1905 -28 Thomas Blewitt took on the licence in 1905. He would be the last landlord. In 1915 Mrs Thomas Blewitt  (Emma) was mentioned as the landlady, perhaps because her husband was involved in the war though he would have been in his 50s. Thomas still kept a lodging house going in these premises after they ceased to be a pub. It was a small place at this time with no bar in its last days as a pub. Nevertheless at that time it sold 3 barrels of beer a week, which was comparable to many of the larger premises. Closed as a pub (but not lodging house) December 31st 1928 as it's  licence renewal was refused under powers to limit the number of licensed premises in an area. 


RISING SUN (Be aware of the Sun / Old Sun in Lane End too, some of the same surnames for publicans appear at both because they are common local names). Had stabling. 

1833 - Thomas Stroud "Rising Sun Public house" Common Slough (Spittal Square). Later references to the Rising Sun invariably refer to it's location as Chapel Street. The pub maybe didn't  therefore remained continuously in the same spot. 

1842 - Henry Stroud. Fined this year for selling beer before 1pm on Sunday - pubs were supposed to be closed to encourage people to go to divine service instead. Fined 40s plus 10s costs, a large amount. Henry's brother Thomas thought that the Rising Sun was a "disorderly house" causing a local nuisance and came to the trial to make a complaint about his brother's conduct. But the magistrates refused to hear a complaint made in this spontaneous way. Thomas would have to make a complaint using the proper process they said. We have found no record that he did so. Henry was "dobbed in" about the sale of alcohol during prohibited Sunday hours by William Crouch Snr. William lived in Spittal Street and had been a publican himself in the past. The buyer of the offending quarter pint - a little girl! It was not her age that made the act illegal, she was one of many children sent out to fetch alcohol for their parents every day.

1843 - Henry Stroud "The Sun beer shop" Henry Stroud, beer seller is listed Dean Street 1844 so he looks to have soon moved.

1852 - Charles Haines? [Charles Haines is at the nearby The Bear in 1851]

1859- George Haines "The Sun" ? See Lane End listings.  

1871 - Elizabeth Haines ?

1872 - "the Old Sun" Elizabeth Haines

1881 - John Soley. Wife Mary. See also Travellers Rest below. 

1889 - John Soley. 2. William Lunnon

1890 - 1. William Lunnon. 2. Thomas Plumridge (one source says George Plumridge) 

1891 - Thomas Plumridge (also bricklayer)

1892 - Thomas Plumridge left.
Alfred Higgins got a holdover for the premises then Thomas (?, possibly William) Willis in 1893.

1895 - Willis left. David (Davis?) Collins applied for a hold -over licence, which he was granted but he was refused a permanent licence. Then Edward Gould / Gold was granted a temporary holdover but it was an Arthur Bright who eventually landed the proper licence. Edward Gould said that the premises didn't meet his requirements anyway and he wanted to leave to "better himself". 

1896 - Arthur Bright transferred premises to Joseph Mallett.

1897 - Joseph Mallett gave way temporarily to William Lyons Furlong but a proposal that this hold over would be made permanent was refused. In the end John Baxter was granted the licence instead.

1898 - John Baxter. John was told in December that he needed to register the premises as a common lodging house as it was being used as such.

1899 - John Baxter transferred premises to William A Grant. Premises up for sale, after 2 years of wrangling in chancery to settle who should inherit the property, as its former owner Miss Rebecca Pim of Amersham had died. It was purchased for £625 by Mr George Weller.  Alterations were to be done to meet the minimum standards necessary for any premises to be used as a common lodging house. The new owners gave up the alcohol licence for the premises in 1900.
It looks like the former Rising operated as a lodging house in Edwardian times though not under that name.


THE CARPENTERS ARMS



Usual address was given as Spittal Street, and recently renamed The Butcher's Tap after a spell as O'Donoghues. 

Pub existed on this site 1830. Formerly bore a sign suggesting it had been established 1758 - which may well be correct. 

1841- 1843 - James Cooper, also a carpenter. Age 50 on 1841 census. 

1843- William Bavin - came from The Two Brewers (see), taking over from James Cooper. Previously a chair maker. Temporary name change that year to The Traveler's Rest when outgoing landlord James Cooper took the Carpenters sign with him and William Bavin thought that Cooper meant to use it as the name for the pub he was moving to (next door!). As it happened James stuck with the existing name, the Prince Albert, for his new premises leaving James free to use the Carpenter's Arms name after all.  

1869 - John Larkin. Also a carpenter. Wife Eliza. Carpenters tended to take on this beer house as it was equipped with a large workshop and saw pit to the rear thanks to its long association with this occupation. It also had the usual stabling there- for six horses.

1870- six sevenths of the pub sold! At the time John Larkin was paying £40 a year rent. The Wethered brewing family of Marlow who already owned one seventh of the pub bought the rest to become full owners.

1871 - 1. John Larkin (went to Fox and Pheasant, Dean Street). 2. Thomas Billingshurst.

1872 - Thomas Billing(s)hurst fined for keeping premises open on a Sunday. Had his licence endorsed. Tried to claim that the served beer found by a constable was him and his wife's lunchtime tipples and not beer to be drunk by their lodger Joe Martin or the other man found in the bar. Later that year license transferred to Joseph Rose.

1877 - 83 Joseph Rose. Born circa 1827. Wife Charlotte born circa 1827.

1883 - License transfer Joseph Rose deceased, to his widow Charlotte.

1886 - started their Slate Club. 

1891 - 1903 Mrs Charlotte Rose, as above. Son William is a barman there in 1891. Note it looks like this pub perhaps very briefly changed its name to the Prince Albert in the 1880s, the name of a (by then closed) former next door licensed premises. See below.

1906 - 1. Mrs Rose 2. Thomas Probert (grandson of Charlotte Rose He was also a carpenter and son of the former landlord of the White Lion in West Street, Mary Probert). Thomas was already assisting in the pub and living with his grandma before this.

1908 - Authorities trying to thin the total number of pubs in Marlow try to close the pub but the brewery and tenant manage to save it. There wass then, it was reported, no sleeping accommodation for travellers at the pub but they could be served bread and cheese if they wanted it.

1915 - 18 Thomas Arthur Probert. Often referred to as T.A Probert. Thomas was killed in action as a sapper in the Royal Engineers in 1918. 

1918 -1939 at least Mrs Kate Ethel Probert widow of Thomas above. In 1928 the pub was considered again for closure under plans to limit the number of licensed premises in a given area. It then sold 3 barrels of beer a week. The pub escaped the cull as credit was given to Kate for her very clean and orderly pub. She said the Arms had been in her family for around 70 years. 

1956 - A T Probert.



THE BEAR

The earliest pub to carry the name of The Bear was in the High Street on the West side but that pub was not recorded after the 1700s. By 1830 Chapel Street was the location for a new Bear. The second Bear was also a common lodging house. Landlords for this second Bear are given below.

1833 - Thomas Livings (also lodging house).

1839 - Thomas Livings (also boot and shoe maker).

1845- Joseph Pepper. He had lived in Chapel Street since at least 1833. His wife Sarah AKA Sally fined for assaulting another woman this year. See the grave of Joseph and Sally here.

1846 - Mr Pepper - described as a "Tom and Jerry Shop" e.g small beer shop. Paid some money and a pot of beer for a stolen bundle of wooden laths that year. There was suspicion he knew them to be stolen.

1847 - Joseph Pepper. Fined £2 including costs for allowing cards to be played on the premises. Though Joseph and Sally Pepper left the Bear they still lived in Chapple Street later.  

1849 - Charles Haines

1851 - Charles Haines. Fined 10s plus costs for allowing card playing in The Bear in June that year. However it was noted that Charles and the two others convicted of the same offence were all supporters of the opposite political party to the arresting constables and the stings may have been unfairly focused on them. 

1853 - George Finch. Fined £1 for having his beer house open after proper hours. 

1855- Mr Neighbour

1861 - Henry Neighbour (also a cordwainer) Was a publican in "St Peter's Street" 1851. This was the Waterman's Arms on the river front. See a detailed post on Henry and wife Catherine nee Sparkes here 

1864 - had a "dancing room"

1867 - up for sale.  

1871 - Charles Hoare (also lodging house, probably it's principle role by then).  See also The Three Horseshoes and Travellers Friend. 

1872 - Charlotte Hoar. (Hoare) Charlotte's grave can be viewed here

1874 - Charlotte Hoare. 2 Henry Rowe. That year (during Charlotte's tenancy) saw the death in a fight in the bar of one of her lodgers George Frewing. A post about this is here.

1881 - Henry Rowe. Wife Sarah died there in February age 68. Continues as The Black Horse thereafter. 


THE BRICKLAYERS ARMS, Chapel Street

1844 - James Smith [also a bricklayer]. In the same premises 1841 but not obviously a beer seller then. The name of this pub may come from his trade. In 1843 fined for selling short measures at a premises not named but this also indicates that he was already operating a pub on this site then.

1851 - Diana Smith was a beer seller in Chapel Street, premises not stated. Property records however show that she was in the same premises as James above. She was his widow. Sometimes rendered Dina / Dinah. 

1861 - Diana Smith.

1864 - Dina Smith.

1869 - Henry Rowe (see also The Black Horse). Wife Sarah.

1871 - Henry Rowe.

1872 - Henry Rowe.

1874 - Henry Rowe moved to The Bear.

1874 - To be Let, a Fuller and co brewery pub. Henry C Bartlett took over from Henry Rowe.

1875 - Mr Bartlett transferred to John Fenner. Bartlett went to The Green Man, Flackwell Heath. 

1876 - John Fenner transferred to William Lloyd.

1877 - Henry Rowe again (Moved to The Black Horse Marlow by 1881).

1881 - William Lloyd 2. Francis Enever (holdover).

1882 - Frederick James Walker.

1883 - 1. Frederick J Walker transferred licence to  John Windsor. Frederick then went to the Three Tuns, West Street.

1886 - In this year, the Bricklayers nearly lost it's right to be a licensed premises because it fell below the minimum rateable value for a property used as a public house. It was decided to make a neighbouring cottage part of the premises to raise the value of the premises, a common strategy for pubs in this situation. But this cottage was in use as a shop by Mr Savage the baker who wasn't leaving and the authorities naturally felt sceptical that it could truly be considered a proper part of the pub, partial alterations notwithstanding.
However, the owner of the property said that the cottage had been illegally sub let to Savage and they would make Savage leave. So the licence was renewed at last. 

1891 - John Windsor transferred pub to John White.

1896 - John White. Benjamin Barnes was fined 5s for "pulling about" and swearing at John White's daughter Emma who was serving at the bar that year. John came from the back and threw beer in the face of Mr Barnes, then went for the police. 

1897 - John White. Fined this year for selling beer during prohibited hours, but his licence was not endorsed. He nearly didn't get licence renewed due to this but after "much discussion" White did get it. Building was at that time recently purchased by Messrs Weller of Amersham from Brakspears. They promised to stop up back access into Marlow Field to prevent illicit visits after hours.

1906 E F Harvey transferred to James Plumridge.

1907 - James Plumridge. Serial con woman Maisy Light who lived in a caravan here and there about Marlow stole £1 from him.

1909 Albert Ernest Holder. Albert was probably later at the Black Lion 2. Edward James Carter. 

1911-21  - Charles Lloyd  (and greengrocer and grocer in the property next door, possibly accessed through pub. He was still running the shop in 1927).

1928 -Charles Lloyd then RJT Mast seems  to have it for last few months , possibly a holdover. When the Arms are first shortlisted for potential closure (see below) it's revealed Charles sells only one barrel of beer a week, and so the shop he ran provided the majority of his income. He says he'd be willing to close the shop to concentrate on the pub if it would save the licence.  Closure proposed under powers to limit number of licensed premises in an area. Closed December 31st 1928.  Premises still stand. Charles Lloyd and his family returned to live on their former pub. 


PRINCE ALBERT (Spittal Street but also given as Chapel Street given the perpetual historic confusion between the two) There was also a Prince Albert at Moors End, Lane End. 

1838 Prince Albert Beerhouse, "Chapel Street" existed. The future Queen Victoria had not yet become engaged to Prince Albert so this is a curiosity if correct. 

1841 - Robert Rockall. Had a stable which was offered as very budget sleeping accomodation to travellers passing through the town.

1843 - James Cooper. He had come from the Carpenters Arms in its first incarnation. This was next door, part of the same larger building! Wife Sarah. Fined for using short measures this year. 

1846 James Cooper. Fined once again for having unjust measures on the premises.

1851 - James Cooper.

1852 - James Cooper

1858- William Reeves. Fined for keeping illegal hours. He was also a carpenter. Wife Sarah. He was the son of Richard and Jane Reeves masters of the workhouse and later landlords of the Ship, West Street.

1861 - William and Sarah Reeves. Seems then to have been a lodging house. Sarah moved as a widow to the Ship, West Street, taking over from William's widowed mother. See here.

The Prince Albert is not included in the 1872 pub list created by local authorities. So presumably below is a new incarnation. Research ongoing!

1887 - Mrs Rose (See Carpenters Arms above). Records scarce for this "beershop"... could it be a name change for the Carpenters Arms inspired by the Jubilee which didn't stick? The Carpenters Arms and The former Prince Albert were next door premises, part of the same larger building. Once the original Albert closed the name epukd have been up for grabs again. A Mrs Rose was after all the landlady of the the Carpenters Arms in the years running up to this so this scenario seems likely. Mrs Rose had a son William and a servant servant Ellen Line at this new "Albert".


TRAVELLER'S REST 

See also Traveller's Friend, Dean Street. The similarity of name and relatively close location between the two premises has sometimes caused an accidental switching of names. They however existed at the same time, with different land lords and different associated breweries. They were different businesses. This was more of a small beershop which also took in some lodgers. The Traveller's Friend on the other hand was more of common lodging house which also had alcohol licence.
To confuse matters further the Carpenters Arms in Spittal Street was briefly known as the Traveler's Rest too, see above. 

1845 - Charles Finch. Wife Ann. In this year Ann is assaulted by a drinker there, Thomas Windsor. He is fined 20s including costs. 

1846 - Joseph East - fined for allowing extensive card playing on premises, and keeping his beer house open after 11pm. Plead guilty, 40s fine. 

1851- William Chilton

1853 - William Chilton (and marine store dealer).

1861 - William Chilton. Census enumerator calls his pub the Travellers Friend, confusing it with the Dean Street one.

1869 - William Chilton (and marine store dealer)

1872 - William Chilton  

1874 - William transfers premises to John Soley. NB Newspaper report of this calls the premises Travellers Friend, which is incorrect. The Travellers Friend was the Dean Street premised ran by the Price family at this time [Bucks Herald 10 January 1874. The South Bucks Free Press reporting the same transfer did get the premises name correct. ].
A John Soley is at The Rising Sun in 1881. 

RESEARCHED BY CHARLOTTE DAY AND KATHRYN DAY.

 We mainly focus on pre WW1 listings but sometimes list later names if it ties in with research we are helping with.

For similar posts see Pub Related on the menu. For every mention of someone on this blog see the Person Index.



SOURCES INCLUDED:

1833 Parochial Assessment. Original working notebooks held by my family. Transcribed by Charlotte.

1853 Mussons and Cravens Commercial Directory.

Pigots Directory 1844.

Kelly's Post Office Directory  of Bucks etc-1869,1877,1883, 1903, 1915 by Kelly's Directories Limited.

Census - 1861,1871,1881,1891 . Transcription by Charlotte Day.

Robson's Directory 1839

* Windsor and Eton Express, Apr 10 1875, held at British Library Archive and accessed via the BNA. 

Bucks Herald 23 September 1869, 10 Jan, 15 August 1874, 26 December 1874, 18 June 1887, 23 May 1896, 13 June 1928 as above.  

South Bucks Standard July 2 1897

Also

Reading Mercury 25 July, 19 Sept 1874.

Berkshire Chronicle, 21 February 1846, 09 Jan 1847 as above.

Bicester Herald - 18 February 1881. 

1872 list of pubs and the breweries that owned them, held at Buckinghamshire County Council Archives. 

South Bucks Free Press 11th February 1858, July 2nd 1897. Both Bucks Free Press Archives.


©Marlow Ancestors. You are  very welcome to quote from or use this research for family or local history purposes if you credit this blog.

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