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Thursday, January 9, 2025

More Historic Shopkeepers of Quoiting Square Marlow.

A grocer's shop formerly operated from where the children's shoe shop is today in Quoiting Square.

Aaron Maskell originally from the Cookham area (born 1814) ran the business in these specific premises by 1861 (seemingly from 1854). In 1862 he was summoned to court after inspectors found his weighing scales were not properly maintained and thus not weighing true. He said this was just an oversight and the court believed him -it was a common problem. He was allowed to pay only the court costs rather than a fine plus costs.

Aaron hired a shed further up Oxford Road in which he kept ducks and geese. In the 1800 grocers did not usually sell any fresh birds so this looks to have been a different side line business for Aaron. Some of these birds were stolen and slaughtered before they could be recovered in 1865. He is also listed as a bacon curer in 1854. Many grocery shops produced and sold their own bacon in this era with curing taking place on the premises.

Aaron died suddenly in 1873. He had been suffering from chest problems for four years and had been previously diagnosed with heart disease but had not had any recent medical attendance. On the day of his death he woke up with pains in the chest and arm. Today we would understand these as symptoms of a potential heart attack and an emergency situation but Aaron had to be persuaded to even go back to bed to rest let alone seek medical attendance. Eliza Mann* who lived with the Maskells gave him some ginger water (which would have been seen as invigorating) and then called for a doctor. Sadly his condition deteriorated and his life could not be saved.

Aaron's wife Anna (née Hemmens, stated as of Alton in Middlesex when they married in Heigham Norfolk 1837) then took over the helm of the shop. In 1878 her niece in law Emily Hemmens (widow of Charles) who had been assisting the couple for some years became the manager. These proprietor's all had spirit licences too and sold beer, including that of Marlow's Wethered Brewery. 

Emily died in 1884 and her assistant George Henry Britnell ran the business himself. George was from Little Marlow originally and married his wife Jane Larkin in Kensington Middlesex in 1885.

In 1890 George's shop assistant Ellen Harris was a witness when a boy stole from the till of a shop in nearby West Street. She gave evidence in court for the prosecution. Theft from shops was very common in Victorian Marlow but it was most often of goods hanging outside or displayed in the window rather than of money.

In the early 1900s George retired in favour of Edward Albert Piercey who moved from Lane End where he had been a licensed victualler. By this time the shop was mostly operating as what we would now call an off licence with groceries of secondary importance. Edward only stayed a few years, transferring the business and its alcohol license over to Edward Neighbour in 1906. Edward kept the store equally as a grocery shop, provisions merchant and off licence. Below is an ad from 1915.


When I was a very little girl I had an elderly friend Elsie Coster who lived as a child in Oxford Road near this shop. Her brother Albert worked running errands for the business as a teenager in the early 1920s and I believe Elsie herself worked there as a shop assistant for a brief period.

Edward's father has a biography post on the blog here. Edward's maternal grandparents feature in this post, while this one features both his aunt and maternal grandma.

The business continued as "E Neighbours" until at least 1933. The business is not in the 1939 Kelly's Directory. Bertram Scammell general shopkeeper was probably in the premises then.

Elsewhere in the Square William Bowles ran a fruiterer's shop from at least 1873 to at least 1897. He survived bankruptcy in 1886. He had a fruit store up Oxford Road and also occupied Oakengrove / Oaken Grove Farm. An old building in Oxford Road he no longer needed was the first home of Marlow's Salvation Army members. This made him somewhat unpopular and he eventually evicted them on the grounds their band practices and meetings were too noisy. You have to remember that the Army apart from promoting teetotalism which was seen as threatening in a brewery town was perceived as radical even dangerously subversive religiously and socially for many other reasons in it's early days. William was not as far as can be seen a member himself.

The shop where William lived and worked no longer exists, neither do his fruit store or the first Salvation Army building. More about the controversial (and violent!) early days of the Salvation Army in Marlow here.

*Eliza Mann married James Meakes of Marlow and the couple kept the Plough pub. More here.

See also previous post on "What did Platts used to be?" for shops that used to be on that Quoiting Square spot here.

See also here for my previous post on Elizabeth Tyler/ Lee whose husband just might have been in the Maskell/ Britnell/ Neighbour etc grocery store in earlier times.

For some history and the historic landlords of the pub next door to the grocery shop mentioned above (the Clayton Arms) see here

Sources:

Historic advertising material.

Bucks Examiner 17th December 1890. Copy held at the British Library Archives. Viewed by me via the British Newspaper Archive March 2021.

Reading Mercury 28th June 1862, accessed as above.

UK Census images my transcription from microfilm, National Archives. Census information remains Crown Copyright.

Heigham Parish Registers

Kelly's Directory of Berkshire, Bucks and Oxon 1854, 1883, 1911, 1915, 1920, 1939 by Kelly's Directories Limited. 

Marlow Town Guide 1891.

Marlow Directory and Almanack 1907, 1915. Marlow Printing Company.

Duttons Directory of Buckinghamshire by Dutton, Allen and Co 1863.

GRO Death Index online

Kensington marriage from Jane Pullinger.

Property records.



Saturday, January 29, 2022

Avis and William Perry

Avis Butler married William Perry in Great Marlow in 1829. She was baptised there in 1805, the illegitimate daughter of Ann Butler. William's census entries indicate that he was born in Marlow too but I can't find his baptism. There were certainly other Perrys about the town, including in Dean Street where Avis and William settled.

William was an agricultural labourer early in life, with a significant sideline in poaching! An attempt by two Marlow constables to arrest him on one such charge in 1840 led to a riot of some 100 people (and an angry bulldog) in Dean Street and the virtual lynching of one constable who was left unconscious by a blow to the head. The reports on the case tell us that William and his friends used backwards speech to secretly communicate with each other when anyone else was listening. That is if I wanted to say "look out!" to you I would say "tuo kool!" instead. I was aware of such speech in London amongst the "criminal classes" but this case was the first I heard of it being used in Marlow. Full story here

None of the rioting helped William ultimately avoid arrest however. On the 1841 census he was in Aylesbury gaol. Avis was home in Dean Street Marlow on the same census, living with Ann and Richard Carr. 

William, a large man, also made some money from cudgel fighting. A sport in which the more heads you split open the more you won! For a report of a cudgel match organised at the Crown in Marlow see my post on "The Crown Inns" here.  Competitor names then are not known. William fought at Windsor as well as Marlow.

By 1851 Avis and William had the Fox and Pheasant beer house in Dean Street. Given his notoriety as a poacher and fighter it seems extraordinary that William could get his name on an alcohol license! You were supposed to be a person of good character. On a day to day basis Avis probably ran things as William still worked as an agricultural labourer during this time. As the license was officially in his name he was the one fined in 1859 when a constable found the premises open during illegal hours. The charge was not denied. He was also fined for using short measures for his alcohol and twice more over the years came convictions for selling beer during illegal hours.

Most Dean Street pubs operated as lodging houses too but there is only minor evidence of that with Avis and William. 

The couple were apparently without children.

Shortly after the 1871 census the licence of the Fox and Pheasant was transferred to a Mr Larkin. More on him and other landlords of the pub here.

William continued to work for John Langley the Marlow fruiterer, farmer and keeper of the Verney Arms also in Dean Street. Sent by him to Datchet to pick apples, William fell from a ladder. He was carried, paralysed from the waist down, to the hospital in Windsor. The next day aged 73 he died.

To spare Avis, his body was formally identified by his niece Harriet Bowles.

Avis became a pauper dependent on the parish, still living Dean Street on the 1881 census. She died in 1882.

John Langley the fruiterer mentioned above has a long biographical post here.

Researched and written by Charlotte Day. 


Related Posts

To find all mention of an individual or family here, use the A-Z person index in the top drop down menu. 

 Interested in other pubs or beer house keepers? See the list of pub etc related posts: here

Crime and disorder in old Marlow here

More Dean Street related posts are listed in the "Specific Shops, Streets...Etc" menu here



©Marlow Ancestors. You are very welcome to use the content of this post for family or local history purposes if you credit this blog and provide a link here.


Sources included:

Census my own transcriptions from microfilm.

Newspaper copies at the British Library accessed via the BNA October 2020: Reading Mercury 14th July 1860 and 26th March 1864. 

Bucks Free Press August 13th 1880. Bucks Free Press Archives.

Great Marlow Parish Registers.





Sunday, September 5, 2021

More Dean Street Landlord and Beer Seller Listings *Updated*

Updated by Charlotte Feb 2026.

If the premises you are searching for isn't listed here, search for it in the Pub Related option in the top drop down menu. 


Well End was one of the original names of Dean Street. It was used mainly pre 1850's, although some trade directories still utilised it in the 1860's. It is not to be confused with Well End near Little Marlow. 


THE FOX AND PHEASANT

Note there was also an early The Fox in West Street.

1851 - William Perry, age 52

1859 - William Perry fined £1 for having his beer house open during illegal hours on a Sunday.

1860 - William and Avis Perry. Lots more on these in our Poaching Perrys post. His brother Samuel was landlord of the dean Street pub the Rose and Crown. More on him in the Poaching Perrys post here . William was fined this year for using short measures, one of 4 establishment so caught. 

1864 - William and Avis Perry. William was fined £2 and 10 shillings plus costs for opening the premises on a Sunday morning (and thus was attracting people away from attending divine service instead). Avis is the one in court on William's behalf. 

1868 - William Perry fined £5 for opening up his beer house for sale of beer on a Sunday

1871- William Perry transferred to John Larkin who came to this pub from the Carpenters Arms (see this post) Also a carpenter. Wife of Larkin was Eliza. 

1872 - John Larkin.

1881 - John Larkin?


THE ROSE AND CROWN 

Beer house with yard

1833 Richard Clarke. Came from The Jolly Malsters Dean Street. Died 1836. More about him on that post.

1840 - described by the Bucks Gazette as an "obscure beer shop in Dean Street" when a drinker who fell asleep in the tap room was relieved of more than £6 by a pick pocket. 

1842 - Samuel Perry. Brother of William Perry above. See the Poaching Perrys post for more on him and his family. Dead by 1851.

1844 - J Carr. Almost certainly Josiah Carr who this year was involved in a very long (over two days) fight with another man that started in the Rose and Crown, carried on in the street outside then moved to "Crown Close" (near the back of Boots today). All over a game of cards being played for money. Josiah was a serial poacher convicted of offences at Fawley and Marlow. See also The Anchor below for more Carrs.  

Gone by 1872.


THE ALMA presumably named for the 1854 battle, however records suggest the premises first received a licence in 1830. This would indicate that this was one of the many pubs that changed name over time. On Queens Road / Gas Works side of the road. 

1860 - James Patterson (fined for having defective measures, and unusually one was an "over measure" rather than a short measure!) Having a defective measure was a very common offence and seems often to stem from manufacturing defects in the measure rather than dishonesty on the publican's part. In 1861, he was living elsewhere in Dean Street and working as a cordwainer with wife Ann. By 1871 he and Ann have taken on The Nags Head, also in Dean Street. Possibly the James "Pattison" at the "Blue Bonnets" [Bonnet O' Blue] West Street 1855. 

1861 - James East, also market gardener. Wife Charlotte. A James East was listed as a Well End / Dean Street beer retailer in 1849 at uncertain premises. This was not necessarily the same James as later at the Alma however. The James that was at the Alma looks to have been the cousin of  Mrs Diana Smith landlady of the Bricklayers Arms in Chapel Street. More on that pub here.

1869 -William East of The Fighting Cocks applied for the licence as he said that he only put his name down for the Cocks to save it from closure but he had no intention of staying there. William was unsuccessful though, as he'd faced trial at a Quarter Sessions.  He wasn't found guilty but this was regarded as a "moral stain" and only those of good character were allowed a licence - in theory at least!  John Finch took on the Alma instead temporarily.

1870 - James Meakes had it briefly (he was a brewer and he may have been running his own pub until he could find a live in landlord)  then Henry Harding (hold over). William Brown applies for the licence but the magistrates feel the local character references he supplies are not sufficient as he's only been in town for 3 months. Therefore they  don't represent a satisfactory insight into his character they feel. NB this is not the same William Brown who was a landlord at The Mint or Jolly Maltsters. 

1872 - Mr Finch. William Thatcher was spotted going intothe  premises during prohibited hours and was fined 1s, a nominal sum for his first offence. His defence? He just wanted to borrow some salt for his vegetables from Mrs Finch.

1873 - John Finch to George Allen. John appears to have moved to The Bank of England, where the brewers were required to find a new tenant after the previous one was accused of harbouring criminals. 

1877 - John Finch qv (lodging house also) 

1878 - William West  (hold-over)

1879 -Henry Hester with wife Charlotte. Licencing authorities are assured Henry has a character of excellent "sobriety, industry, and honesty". An attempt to transfer the licence little later that year to Daniel Price is refused due to lack of sufficient character references for Daniel. He did succeed taking it on briefly the next year it seems. 

1880 - 1. Henry Hester transferred licence to Thomas Price or Daniel Price. 

1881 - Daniel Price transferred licence to George Allen.

1882 - Licence renewal for George Allen refused. The premises had been closed several months at time of the licencing sessions. In April two homeless women, Sarah Brewer junior and senior were arrested for sleeping in the empty building. Sarah senior spent 7 days in prison for this, the younger was released without charge. By September the owner of the premises, James Meakes (Meekes) was extremely frustrated that he had been unable to find a suitable tenant (or rather one the licencing magistrates will accept as suitable) So he decided to apply to take over the licence himself. If they did not grant this, James said that the property would become valueless as it will have to stay closed. His pleas were unsuccessful. Probably because they suspected that the other business interests of James would not in reality allow him to personally manage things with the close attention they felt the Alma needed. In October the licence was refused again to George Allen. This refusal came after the magistrates went to view the property - for reasons we cannot yet discover but the most common reasons for refusal on grounds of the property itself rather than the behaviour of the landlord were too low a rateable value to qualify for a licence, the perceived condition of the building or a physical feature that was considered likely to make the premises hard to police - eg entrance on to a back alley.

1884 - "The Alma Inn". We are uncertain if the premises were still actually open for business but the name still seems to have been up.


THE FIGHTING COCKS

Was immediately next to the Nag's Head

1840 - Samuel Beckett. John Perry was convicted of shooting at and damaging the sign of the Fighting Cocks.

1844 - S. Beckett. Also a carpenter. 

1851 - Samuel Beckett

1853 - Samuel Beckett

1861 - Samuel Beckett (also a carpenter). Wife Emma nee James. Samuel was born circa 1812, the son of James (a carpenter) and Ann Beckett who lived Quoiting Square Marlow. Samuel was dead by 1882. Emma died in 1883.

1868- William East. Probably had come from The Nags Head.  

1869 -William East transferred to Joseph Perry. William applied to take on The Alma as he said he'd just stepped in when the Cocks was at risk of closure and so put his name on the licence with no intention of staying long term. He was not successful in his application for The Alma. See below. One local report states the licence transfer was to a James Perry, not Joseph but the majority of evidence suggests that Joseph is correct. The new Perry in charge said on his application for the licence that he was already resident at the Cocks. He said he currently worked seasonally on threshing machines and at hawking fruit. He however did have experience of running an unnamed beer-house in Canterbury about 12 years previously. He did so for a year after which time he "could not make it pay". 

1871- Joseph Perry born 1834 (also an agricultural labourer, former skewer maker -more on his family's involvement in this trade here). Wife Ann. 

1873-  a lodger had coins and buttons stolen from the premises.

1878 - Joseph Perry (also labourer)

1881 - Joseph Perry (also agricultural labourer)

1883 - Joseph Perry to his widow Ann. 

1884 - James Perry 2. John Bryant

1884 - John Briant /Bryant (later a greengrocer/ shopkeeper/ market gardener in Queens Road. John was a retired soldier) 2.) Mrs Perry (unknown first name). She was given notice to quit by Wethered's Brewery as she was caught selling beer outside of legal hours. At court she received a 15s fine for this.

1885 - proposal to close The Fighting Cocks if the immediately adjacent Nag's Head was awarded a spirit licence. An identical proposal had been accepted the previous year but paperwork wasn't filed in time so the Nag's Head spirit licence had to be applied for again this year. Proposal accepted in principle but Fighting Cocks did not close. See below. 

1889 - Proposal again made by owners to close this down in exchange for being granted full licence for Nags Head. It doesn't seem to have happened as in 1892 a second proposal is made to close it in exchange for the Wethered Brewery getting an off licence that would allow it to sell smaller quantities of bottled beer off the premises to trade customers who came from small beer houses. Their existing licence only allowed them to sell beer by the large cask or in a minimum of 24 bottles at once, which they said was too much for some of the smaller concerns who would happily come and collect their own bottled supplies direct from the brewery if permitted. Seems The Fighting Cocks was still open however until 1897. When the off licence was considered, Wethered's had suggested they would close the Cocks to encourage the magistrates to find in their favour, and the magistrates intimated they would like to see this happen. However it doesn't seem they made it an actual condition of granting the licence, so perhaps that gave the brewery no sense of hurry in the matter. 


THE ROYAL EXCHANGE 

1860 - John Langley. Fined for using short measures this year. Wife Ann. 

1861 - John Langley (John aka John Langley Senior was at the Verney Arms by 1871, see also The Crown).

1863 John Langley tried to get a spirit license for the premises but it was refused.

1869- John Langley tried again to upgrade premises to an alehouse in September. Not successful. His existing premises were large enough to host a club dinner for 150 persons in May. He opened the Verney Arms in October with an official grand opening in December. It was described as newly built premises.

Not listed in an 1872 list of beer houses. 



THE ANCHOR, on the Queen's Road side of the street.

Primarily a lodging house, albeit one with beer selling licence. Not the same as The Crown and Anchor. 

1840 Joseph Carr?

1841 - George Carr (beer seller and lodging house keeper, premises not named, but right street). Carr's Beer house "Near Marefields." . Wife was Ann.

1844 - George Carr 

1853 - George Carr 

1854 - premises for sale, "that well accustomed Beerhouse" the Anchor, Dean Street. Includes tenement adjoining and large yard.  

1857- George Carr fined 50s for having his beerhouse open for longer than the legal hours. This was a large fine for that offence. Mrs Carr represented him in court and said she had kept a beerhouse for 20 years without being summoned so we know Mrs Carr was equally involved in the business. It also suggests the possibility of the Anchor existing as far back as 1837, or of the Carrs having previously been at another house.

1860 - George Carr. Fined 2s 6d for giving short measures, one of several beer sellers caught doing the same in Marlow that year.

1861 - George Carr 2. Ann Carr widow of George.  She was a lodging house keeper and marine store dealer on the same premises as well as being a beer seller. 

1862 - Ann Carr "Anchor Beer House". Fined for having 5 people drinking in her bar after hours. She said she had lost track of time. Ann was said in the South Bucks Free Press (Nov 1st 1862) to be a good looking, blonde woman (or as it was said precisely "fat, fair and forty") who did a good trade as lodgings provider for itinerant people on the fringes of society. This made her a desirable match. A widowed man called Richardson had been playing court to her seemingly with success even though they sometimes physically fought but eventually they fell out for good. Ann told him to leave. In revenge for one night he let anyone who wanted to put their horses in her meadow and eat the grass for the sum of 6 shillings. He broke the lock in order to do this. Presumably she was keeping the grass for hay or it was thought the animals might damage the hedges or just startle Ann by their unexpected presence. An odd sort of revenge anyway. She had him arrested but chose not to appear in court to press the case and the charges were dismissed. Ann by the way was nearly 50, not 40.

1863 - Ann Carr, still also lodging house keeper and marine store dealer. 

1867 - Charles Price. Fined 21s for keeping the premises open after hours on one occasion and 10 shillings on another. Went by 1871 to Crown and Cushion Dean Street, first to live with his sister in law the landlady then to run the place himself.

1876 - George Carr, now a lodging house only. Believed to be no longer licensed at this point. Perhaps son of George and Ann above though we couldn't see such a baptism.

1897 - is still in existence and apparently licensed again as there was reference at a local coroner's inquest to a man who lived elsewhere in the town going for a drink in the Anchor, Dean Street Marlow. A resident of the premises then was an Alice Hurst.



Related Posts:

There are posts on this blog about individual families associated with certain pubs, as well as on individual pubs themselves so have a look at the Pub Related index here  & don't forget the Person Index for all mentions of someone on this blog. Find it on the top drop down menu. 

Posts about life in Dean Street and neighbouring streets here

More beer sellers than bakers -Temperance in Marlow here

Lists of posts about everyday life in old Great Marlow here

* For more on the dramatic life of William and his wife Avis see our post here.


SOURCES

Licence hearing reports, property transactions, court cases, advertising, wills etc and...

1853, 1863 Mussons and Cravens Commercial Directory from University of Leicester Archives.

Kelly's Post Office Directory - 1859, 1864, 1869, 1877. By Kelly's Directories Limited.

1833 Parish Assessment. Original record held by my family and transcribed by Charlotte Day.

1872 Beer House Listings, Old Bucks County Council Archives

Pigots Directory 1844

Census 1841,1861,1871,1881,1891 transcribed from microfilm.

Bucks Herald 3 October 1840, 17 July 1841, 9th August 1873, 22 May 1902 - held at British Library and accessed via the BNA March 2021.

Bucks Advertiser and Aylesbury News 14 July 1860, as above

Reading Mercury -10 November 1855, 25 September 1875,  29 November 1890, as above

South Bucks Standard July 14 1876, 20 September 1899, June 10 1904, December 25 1908, March 25th 1909 as above. 

Windsor & Eton Express January 25 1868, January 9th 1909 as above

South Bucks Free Press July 14 1860, as above and August 8th 1884 via the Bucks Free Press archives.

Maidenhead Advertiser September 4 1889, as above

Slough Eton and Windsor Observer Aug 29 1885 - Slough Library. 



Post researched and written by Kathryn Day

©Marlow Ancestors. 






Friday, July 16, 2021

Last Orders! Spittal and Chapel Street Landlord listings


UPDATED APRIL 2026 BY CHARLOTTE

Premises with an address in one of these two street are frequently referred to being in one or the other street alternately. They run into each other and the boundary was obviously more fluid than today. Occasional mentions are to Spittal Street by the name of St Thomas Street, referring to the medieval hospital that gave it's name to the area. Buildings in Chapel Street furthest from the town may be referred to as being in Chapel End, or less often Town End. Those at the junction of the two roads were technically in Spittal Square, previously known as the Common Slough. Confused yet? If the premises you are interested in isn't here, it will most likely have its own post eg The Greyhound, and two White Hart pubs . For a full list of old licensed premises, take a look at this long list on the blog here

Other pub content can be found under the Pub Related menu option in the top drop down menu. 


BLACK HORSE, Chapel Street

Given as Spittal Street nearly half the time. Also a common lodging house in both incarnations. Note: there was also a Black Horse in the parish of Little Marlow. 

1833 - William Higgins

In second incarnation:

1881 --1. Henry Rowe  (See also Bricklayer's Arms and The Bear, below) 2.George White. Age 31, wife Annie.

1882- George White 2. ( James?) David Cox

1883 - James Plumridge?

1884 - 93 James David Cox and his wife. In 1892 James refused to take some chickens in payment of beer after rightly suspecting that they were stolen.

1893 - James David Cox to William George Yates

1897 - W G Yates to A H Wright (holdover, Albert H Wright) 

1898 -A H Wright to Mr Gurney (holdover again). 2.  Alfred Sarney (see also the Carrier's Arms)

1899 - 1. Alfred Sarney 2. James Burton Shaw. In this year the Marlow Urban District Council, based upon the recommendation of the medical officer, decided that part of the premises should be registered as a common lodging house for men only. Certain alterations would be necessary to bring it to the required standards, and the owner of the premises signalled a willingness to follow through with this plan. It was indeed so registered. 

1900 -1. James Burton Shaw. 2. George Lewis. In this year the Horse got mains water for the first time. It had previously relied on a well which was considered to leave something to be desired. 
Above, the Black Horse occupied the premises that house Chic Hair in this image. 

1902 - The councils sanitary inspector reported that the condition of the premises was "much improved"

1903 2. George Lewis. 2. Thomas Lewis? proposed transfer to Joseph Ball. 

1905 -28 Thomas Blewitt took on the licence in 1905. He would be the last landlord. In 1915 Mrs Thomas Blewitt  (Emma) was mentioned as the landlady, perhaps because her husband was involved in the war though he would have been in his 50s. Thomas still kept a lodging house going in these premises after they ceased to be a pub. It was a small place at this time with no bar in its last days as a pub. Nevertheless at that time it sold 3 barrels of beer a week, which was comparable to many of the larger premises. Closed as a pub (but not lodging house) December 31st 1928 as it's  licence renewal was refused under powers to limit the number of licensed premises in an area. 


RISING SUN (Be aware of the Sun / Old Sun in Lane End too, some of the same surnames for publicans appear at both because they are common local names). Had stabling. 

1833 - Thomas Stroud "Rising Sun Public house" Common Slough (Spittal Square). Later references to the Rising Sun invariably refer to it's location as Chapel Street. The pub maybe didn't  therefore remained continuously in the same spot. 

1842 - Henry Stroud. Fined this year for selling beer before 1pm on Sunday - pubs were supposed to be closed to encourage people to go to divine service instead. Fined 40s plus 10s costs, a large amount. Henry's brother Thomas thought that the Rising Sun was a "disorderly house" causing a local nuisance and came to the trial to make a complaint about his brother's conduct. But the magistrates refused to hear a complaint made in this spontaneous way. Thomas would have to make a complaint using the proper process they said. We have found no record that he did so. Henry was "dobbed in" about the sale of alcohol during prohibited Sunday hours by William Crouch Snr. William lived in Spittal Street and had been a publican himself in the past. The buyer of the offending quarter pint - a little girl! It was not her age that made the act illegal, she was one of many children sent out to fetch alcohol for their parents every day.

1843 - Henry Stroud "The Sun beer shop" Henry Stroud, beer seller is listed Dean Street 1844 so he looks to have soon moved.

1852 - Charles Haines? [Charles Haines is at the nearby The Bear in 1851]

1859- George Haines "The Sun" ? See Lane End listings.  

1871 - Elizabeth Haines ?

1872 - "the Old Sun" Elizabeth Haines

1881 - John Soley. Wife Mary. See also Travellers Rest below. 

1889 - John Soley. 2. William Lunnon

1890 - 1. William Lunnon. 2. Thomas Plumridge (one source says George Plumridge) 

1891 - Thomas Plumridge (also bricklayer)

1892 - Thomas Plumridge left.
Alfred Higgins got a holdover for the premises then Thomas (?, possibly William) Willis in 1893.

1895 - Willis left. David (Davis?) Collins applied for a hold -over licence, which he was granted but he was refused a permanent licence. Then Edward Gould / Gold was granted a temporary holdover but it was an Arthur Bright who eventually landed the proper licence. Edward Gould said that the premises didn't meet his requirements anyway and he wanted to leave to "better himself". 

1896 - Arthur Bright transferred premises to Joseph Mallett.

1897 - Joseph Mallett gave way temporarily to William Lyons Furlong but a proposal that this hold over would be made permanent was refused. In the end John Baxter was granted the licence instead.

1898 - John Baxter. John was told in December that he needed to register the premises as a common lodging house as it was being used as such.

1899 - John Baxter transferred premises to William A Grant. Premises up for sale, after 2 years of wrangling in chancery to settle who should inherit the property, as its former owner Miss Rebecca Pim of Amersham had died. It was purchased for £625 by Mr George Weller.  Alterations were to be done to meet the minimum standards necessary for any premises to be used as a common lodging house. The new owners gave up the alcohol licence for the premises in 1900.
It looks like the former Rising operated as a lodging house in Edwardian times though not under that name.


THE CARPENTERS ARMS



Usual address was given as Spittal Street, and recently renamed The Butcher's Tap after a spell as O'Donoghues. 

Pub existed on this site 1830. Formerly bore a sign suggesting it had been established 1758 - which may well be correct. 

1841- 1843 - James Cooper, also a carpenter. Age 50 on 1841 census. 

1843- William Bavin - came from The Two Brewers (see), taking over from James Cooper. Previously a chair maker. Temporary name change that year to The Traveler's Rest when outgoing landlord James Cooper took the Carpenters sign with him and William Bavin thought that Cooper meant to use it as the name for the pub he was moving to (next door!). As it happened James stuck with the existing name, the Prince Albert, for his new premises leaving James free to use the Carpenter's Arms name after all.  

1869 - John Larkin. Also a carpenter. Wife Eliza. Carpenters tended to take on this beer house as it was equipped with a large workshop and saw pit to the rear thanks to its long association with this occupation. It also had the usual stabling there- for six horses.

1870- six sevenths of the pub sold! At the time John Larkin was paying £40 a year rent. The Wethered brewing family of Marlow who already owned one seventh of the pub bought the rest to become full owners.

1871 - 1. John Larkin (went to Fox and Pheasant, Dean Street). 2. Thomas Billingshurst.

1872 - Thomas Billing(s)hurst fined for keeping premises open on a Sunday. Had his licence endorsed. Tried to claim that the served beer found by a constable was him and his wife's lunchtime tipples and not beer to be drunk by their lodger Joe Martin or the other man found in the bar. Later that year license transferred to Joseph Rose.

1877 - 83 Joseph Rose. Born circa 1827. Wife Charlotte born circa 1827.

1883 - License transfer Joseph Rose deceased, to his widow Charlotte.

1886 - started their Slate Club. 

1891 - 1903 Mrs Charlotte Rose, as above. Son William is a barman there in 1891. Note it looks like this pub perhaps very briefly changed its name to the Prince Albert in the 1880s, the name of a (by then closed) former next door licensed premises. See below.

1906 - 1. Mrs Rose 2. Thomas Probert (grandson of Charlotte Rose He was also a carpenter and son of the former landlord of the White Lion in West Street, Mary Probert). Thomas was already assisting in the pub and living with his grandma before this.

1908 - Authorities trying to thin the total number of pubs in Marlow try to close the pub but the brewery and tenant manage to save it. There wass then, it was reported, no sleeping accommodation for travellers at the pub but they could be served bread and cheese if they wanted it.

1915 - 18 Thomas Arthur Probert. Often referred to as T.A Probert. Thomas was killed in action as a sapper in the Royal Engineers in 1918. 

1918 -1939 at least Mrs Kate Ethel Probert widow of Thomas above. In 1928 the pub was considered again for closure under plans to limit the number of licensed premises in a given area. It then sold 3 barrels of beer a week. The pub escaped the cull as credit was given to Kate for her very clean and orderly pub. She said the Arms had been in her family for around 70 years. 

1956 - A T Probert.



THE BEAR

The earliest pub to carry the name of The Bear was in the High Street on the West side but that pub was not recorded after the 1700s. By 1830 Chapel Street was the location for a new Bear. The second Bear was also a common lodging house. Landlords for this second Bear are given below.

1833 - Thomas Livings (also lodging house).

1839 - Thomas Livings (also boot and shoe maker).

1845- Joseph Pepper. He had lived in Chapel Street since at least 1833. His wife Sarah AKA Sally fined for assaulting another woman this year. See the grave of Joseph and Sally here.

1846 - Mr Pepper - described as a "Tom and Jerry Shop" e.g small beer shop. Paid some money and a pot of beer for a stolen bundle of wooden laths that year. There was suspicion he knew them to be stolen.

1847 - Joseph Pepper. Fined £2 including costs for allowing cards to be played on the premises. Though Joseph and Sally Pepper left the Bear they still lived in Chapple Street later.  

1849 - Charles Haines

1851 - Charles Haines. Fined 10s plus costs for allowing card playing in The Bear in June that year. However it was noted that Charles and the two others convicted of the same offence were all supporters of the opposite political party to the arresting constables and the stings may have been unfairly focused on them. 

1853 - George Finch. Fined £1 for having his beer house open after proper hours. 

1855- Mr Neighbour

1861 - Henry Neighbour (also a cordwainer) Was a publican in "St Peter's Street" 1851. This was the Waterman's Arms on the river front. See a detailed post on Henry and wife Catherine nee Sparkes here 

1864 - had a "dancing room"

1867 - up for sale.  

1871 - Charles Hoare (also lodging house, probably it's principle role by then).  See also The Three Horseshoes and Travellers Friend. 

1872 - Charlotte Hoar. (Hoare) Charlotte's grave can be viewed here

1874 - Charlotte Hoare. 2 Henry Rowe. That year (during Charlotte's tenancy) saw the death in a fight in the bar of one of her lodgers George Frewing. A post about this is here.

1881 - Henry Rowe. Wife Sarah died there in February age 68. Continues as The Black Horse thereafter. 


THE BRICKLAYERS ARMS, Chapel Street

1844 - James Smith [also a bricklayer]. In the same premises 1841 but not obviously a beer seller then. The name of this pub may come from his trade. In 1843 fined for selling short measures at a premises not named but this also indicates that he was already operating a pub on this site then.

1851 - Diana Smith was a beer seller in Chapel Street, premises not stated. Property records however show that she was in the same premises as James above. She was his widow. Sometimes rendered Dina / Dinah. 

1861 - Diana Smith.

1864 - Dina Smith.

1869 - Henry Rowe (see also The Black Horse). Wife Sarah.

1871 - Henry Rowe.

1872 - Henry Rowe.

1874 - Henry Rowe moved to The Bear.

1874 - To be Let, a Fuller and co brewery pub. Henry C Bartlett took over from Henry Rowe.

1875 - Mr Bartlett transferred to John Fenner. Bartlett went to The Green Man, Flackwell Heath. 

1876 - John Fenner transferred to William Lloyd.

1877 - Henry Rowe again (Moved to The Black Horse Marlow by 1881).

1881 - William Lloyd 2. Francis Enever (holdover).

1882 - Frederick James Walker.

1883 - 1. Frederick J Walker transferred licence to  John Windsor. Frederick then went to the Three Tuns, West Street.

1886 - In this year, the Bricklayers nearly lost it's right to be a licensed premises because it fell below the minimum rateable value for a property used as a public house. It was decided to make a neighbouring cottage part of the premises to raise the value of the premises, a common strategy for pubs in this situation. But this cottage was in use as a shop by Mr Savage the baker who wasn't leaving and the authorities naturally felt sceptical that it could truly be considered a proper part of the pub, partial alterations notwithstanding.
However, the owner of the property said that the cottage had been illegally sub let to Savage and they would make Savage leave. So the licence was renewed at last. 

1891 - John Windsor transferred pub to John White.

1896 - John White. Benjamin Barnes was fined 5s for "pulling about" and swearing at John White's daughter Emma who was serving at the bar that year. John came from the back and threw beer in the face of Mr Barnes, then went for the police. 

1897 - John White. Fined this year for selling beer during prohibited hours, but his licence was not endorsed. He nearly didn't get licence renewed due to this but after "much discussion" White did get it. Building was at that time recently purchased by Messrs Weller of Amersham from Brakspears. They promised to stop up back access into Marlow Field to prevent illicit visits after hours.

1906 E F Harvey transferred to James Plumridge.

1907 - James Plumridge. Serial con woman Maisy Light who lived in a caravan here and there about Marlow stole £1 from him.

1909 Albert Ernest Holder. Albert was probably later at the Black Lion 2. Edward James Carter. 

1911-21  - Charles Lloyd  (and greengrocer and grocer in the property next door, possibly accessed through pub. He was still running the shop in 1927).

1928 -Charles Lloyd then RJT Mast seems  to have it for last few months , possibly a holdover. When the Arms are first shortlisted for potential closure (see below) it's revealed Charles sells only one barrel of beer a week, and so the shop he ran provided the majority of his income. He says he'd be willing to close the shop to concentrate on the pub if it would save the licence.  Closure proposed under powers to limit number of licensed premises in an area. Closed December 31st 1928.  Premises still stand. Charles Lloyd and his family returned to live on their former pub. 


PRINCE ALBERT (Spittal Street but also given as Chapel Street given the perpetual historic confusion between the two) There was also a Prince Albert at Moors End, Lane End. 

1838 Prince Albert Beerhouse, "Chapel Street" existed. The future Queen Victoria had not yet become engaged to Prince Albert so this is a curiosity if correct. 

1841 - Robert Rockall. Had a stable which was offered as very budget sleeping accomodation to travellers passing through the town.

1843 - James Cooper. He had come from the Carpenters Arms in its first incarnation. This was next door, part of the same larger building! Wife Sarah. Fined for using short measures this year. 

1846 James Cooper. Fined once again for having unjust measures on the premises.

1851 - James Cooper.

1852 - James Cooper

1858- William Reeves. Fined for keeping illegal hours. He was also a carpenter. Wife Sarah. He was the son of Richard and Jane Reeves masters of the workhouse and later landlords of the Ship, West Street.

1861 - William and Sarah Reeves. Seems then to have been a lodging house. Sarah moved as a widow to the Ship, West Street, taking over from William's widowed mother. See here.

The Prince Albert is not included in the 1872 pub list created by local authorities. So presumably below is a new incarnation. Research ongoing!

1887 - Mrs Rose (See Carpenters Arms above). Records scarce for this "beershop"... could it be a name change for the Carpenters Arms inspired by the Jubilee which didn't stick? The Carpenters Arms and The former Prince Albert were next door premises, part of the same larger building. Once the original Albert closed the name epukd have been up for grabs again. A Mrs Rose was after all the landlady of the the Carpenters Arms in the years running up to this so this scenario seems likely. Mrs Rose had a son William and a servant servant Ellen Line at this new "Albert".


TRAVELLER'S REST 

See also Traveller's Friend, Dean Street. The similarity of name and relatively close location between the two premises has sometimes caused an accidental switching of names. They however existed at the same time, with different land lords and different associated breweries. They were different businesses. This was more of a small beershop which also took in some lodgers. The Traveller's Friend on the other hand was more of common lodging house which also had alcohol licence.
To confuse matters further the Carpenters Arms in Spittal Street was briefly known as the Traveler's Rest too, see above. 

1845 - Charles Finch. Wife Ann. In this year Ann is assaulted by a drinker there, Thomas Windsor. He is fined 20s including costs. 

1846 - Joseph East - fined for allowing extensive card playing on premises, and keeping his beer house open after 11pm. Plead guilty, 40s fine. 

1851- William Chilton

1853 - William Chilton (and marine store dealer).

1861 - William Chilton. Census enumerator calls his pub the Travellers Friend, confusing it with the Dean Street one.

1869 - William Chilton (and marine store dealer)

1872 - William Chilton  

1874 - William transfers premises to John Soley. NB Newspaper report of this calls the premises Travellers Friend, which is incorrect. The Travellers Friend was the Dean Street premised ran by the Price family at this time [Bucks Herald 10 January 1874. The South Bucks Free Press reporting the same transfer did get the premises name correct. ].
A John Soley is at The Rising Sun in 1881. 

RESEARCHED BY CHARLOTTE DAY AND KATHRYN DAY.

 We mainly focus on pre WW1 listings but sometimes list later names if it ties in with research we are helping with.

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SOURCES INCLUDED:

1833 Parochial Assessment. Original working notebooks held by my family. Transcribed by Charlotte.

1853 Mussons and Cravens Commercial Directory.

Pigots Directory 1844.

Kelly's Post Office Directory  of Bucks etc-1869,1877,1883, 1903, 1915 by Kelly's Directories Limited.

Census - 1861,1871,1881,1891 . Transcription by Charlotte Day.

Robson's Directory 1839

* Windsor and Eton Express, Apr 10 1875, held at British Library Archive and accessed via the BNA. 

Bucks Herald 23 September 1869, 10 Jan, 15 August 1874, 26 December 1874, 18 June 1887, 23 May 1896, 13 June 1928 as above.  

South Bucks Standard July 2 1897

Also

Reading Mercury 25 July, 19 Sept 1874.

Berkshire Chronicle, 21 February 1846, 09 Jan 1847 as above.

Bicester Herald - 18 February 1881. 

1872 list of pubs and the breweries that owned them, held at Buckinghamshire County Council Archives. 

South Bucks Free Press 11th February 1858, July 2nd 1897. Both Bucks Free Press Archives.


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