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Monday, October 20, 2025

Mary Church Will - Medmenham 1770

 Mary Church widow of Medmenham proved 4th October 1770.

[She was the widow of Thomas above].

Says sick and weak of body but of sound and perfect mind and memory.

She wishes to confirm and ratify a deed her husband and she lately made to ?declare? or ?..? the uses of a fine [not a fine in the modern sense but a property transaction].

To her youngest daughter Grace the featherbed, tables, chairs and all other furniture in the chamber testator now has.

Eldest son Thomas gets another bed in the hall chamber with the bedstead bolster and other furniture belonging to it [furniture in this context meant fittings and accessories]. 

All her children get equally share and share alike her stock, crops of corn, grain and hay, utensils and implements of husbandry, cattle, household goods, furniture, chattels and all other personal property after debts and funeral expenses paid. If any of the children express displeasure at this they lose their share.

Sons Thomas, Richard and Mark made the will's executors.

Mary made a mark rather than sign.

Witnesses =Leah Wood, Richard Jenkins,  Thomas Atkinson clerk to Mr Newell of Henley.

CODICIL written the same day.

She is seized of the fee simple of a messuage or tenement with a garden and appurtenances in the parish of Cookham which is let at £2 15 shillings a year. Two rooms and a pantry have lately been added to this property. Mary wills that her daughter Grace receives Mary's rental income and profit from this for her natural life. She is to pay a proportional part of the land tax that will be due on the property.

Witnesses as above.

Sons Thomas and Richard granted probate with third son Mark allowed to claim the same right if he came to the probate court and applied. It was not uncommon where multiple executors are named for only one or two of them to travel to the probate court to get the grant of probate, it presumably having been agreed between them that winding up the deceased estate didn't in fact need all of them and they trust each other enough for only some to act. It can also be because one of the executors was far away, unwell or infirm or just plain too busy by the time the testator died so no longer felt themselves to be a suitable executor. The court nevertheless always reserved them future power to execute if they were living unless they came to the probate hearing and formally renounced their role.

The will of her daughter Grace is already in the blog here. Mark, Grace's brother, features in this will.

Mary was the widow of farmer Thomas Church who died earlier the same year.

This will summary was created from Charlotte Day's transcription of the original p.c.c will held at the National Archives Kew.

We focus on Marlow but try to include some surrounding area content. Over 100 will summaries are available on this blog. See the Will Transcriptions Index. More Medmenham related posts are indexed here.

©Marlow Ancestors. You are very welcome to use my research for family or local history purposes with credit to this blog.

Sunday, May 25, 2025

Will of Grace Church of Medmenham 1776



Will both written and proven 1776.

Spinster.

Says she sick and weak of body but of sound and perfect mind, memory and understanding.

To "my young brother" Mark Church a ring in remembrance.

To niece Martha Gray my bed, bedding, linen, clothes, wearing apparel and anything belonging to them.

To James Moss of Walworth in the county of Surrey bricklayer all ready money, any stock in funds, securities and any other personal estate left after debts and funeral expenses paid. James is made executor of the will.

Grace signed with a mark.

Witnesses: Henry Allnutt of Great Marlow attorney and William Bitmead.

This will summary was created from Charlotte Day's transcription of the original P.C.C will held at the National Archives Kew.

Grace's father Thomas a farmer of Medmenham and her mother Mary died in rapid succession of each other in 1770. Mary's will is on the blog here.

We focus on Marlow but try to include some surrounding area content. Over 100 will summaries are available on this blog. See the Will Transcriptions Index. More Medmenham related posts are indexed here.

©Marlow Ancestors. You are very welcome to use my research for family or local history purposes with credit to this blog.

Monday, December 13, 2021

A Pile Of Deformity!!

The proud Marlovian probably doesn't want to continue reading...

Below is a rundown of comments made by those who found Great Marlow a bit less than to their liking.

The Town As A Whole

London Daily News opinion piece 1848 = "One of the most depraved towns in Bucks". It was apparently badly paved, badly drained, on the road to nowhere, those involved in the trade of skewer making* pretty much all criminals, one of the most politically corrupt places around etc. [That last bit was alas 100 per cent truth]. The list of insults goes on a while longer. I've summarized.

Bucks Chronicle and Bucks Gazette 1859 - "It is seldom any change occurs in the dull monotony of Marlow life, it being one unvaried round of work, live, eat, drink, sleep and die".

South Bucks Standard 1860 = says more lectures and adult education classes needed in Marlow to "uplift the minds of the people above the grovelling habits of yore for which they were famous".

"Fanshaw" a visitor from London whose letter was published in the Bucks Free Press 16th June 1866 declared the town's populace to be lethargic and that = "Marlow is polluted with a press-gang of rate makers and collectors the latter continually at the poor man's door regardless of the cries of his hungry children".

Edward James Mortimer Collins 1869 = "rather commonplace and not particularly lively".

Century Illustrated Monthly Magazine 1889 = "A Disappointment".

Photography (a journal) 1895= liked the bridge but "There is little of interest in the town itself".

Fishing And Fish Culture Journal 1886 = "In the town there is nothing particularly worthy of note". The fishing was however good and the air healthy, it said.

The Field, August 5th 1916= "A large and somewhat untidy village which luckily is almost hidden [when viewed from] the river".


The Church

The present All Saints church was erected in the 1830s at the cost of the far older church there before it. The claim that that old church was too far decayed and so must be replaced was doubted by many Marlovians at the time and the fact that the builders actually found the old structure hard to knock down suggests that it was not quite that decrepit. The flooding problems that the new church was supposed to avoid persisted after it was built for at least some time. The faux Gothic style of the church was seen as embarrassingly vulgar by more than a few residents. The decades-lasting local tax levied on all households regardless of whether the church was their own place of worship or not in order to pay for the construction of the new church was bitterly resented by many and caused some of the biggest fallings out in Marlow history. So our Marlow ancestors or at least some of them would maybe not have been quite so hurt by the following comments made by visitors about the church, and might instead have been nodding in agreement:

Bucks Gazette 1835 = "An extravagant pile of deformity". So bad it could not even be classed as any form of architecture, apparently.

South Bucks Free Press 1862 said despite large amounts of money spent on the church= "We have not the satisfaction of looking upon it as one of the grand architectural achievements of the age". In a different edition they said that the church was "very widely condemned as being one of the most barren, naked and worst conceptions of church architecture that could have been offered". It went on to describe the pulling down of the old church as a lamentable and costly blunder. A little later in 1875 the paper called the church design "bald, meagre and ugly in every respect". 

"Fanshaw" a holidaymaker from London who wrote to the Bucks Free Press about his impressions of the town in June 1866 called the church = "an unsightly brick building the chancel end of which forms an ugly Dutch gable".

Book The Royal River: The Thames From Source To Sea, 1885 = said that the old church "could hardly have been as ugly as the present building". It suggested viewing the ugly newer one from a safe distance only. Note this was after substantial beautification work which has been done to the church!

Handbook for Travelers In Berkshire, Buckinghamshire and Oxfordshire 1882=  "An ugly modern structure".

Charles George Harper in Thames Valley Villages, 1910. "A very clumsy take on a Gothic structure.. A fine old Norman structure was destroyed to make way for this.."

Compiled by Charlotte Day.


*To find out more about skewer making in Marlow see our post here.

More posts related to the churches of Marlow and their people see the Church Related option on the menu. For other general posts about everyday life in old Marlow, see the index here

More Marlow quotes and complaints here


Sources:

Article "A Stream of Pleasure" by Joseph and Elizabeth Robins Fennell. 1889. Century Illustrated Monthly Magazine. Volume 38. Via Google Books. Accessed March 2021.

The Daily News 30th November 1848, copy held British Library Archive. Accessed by me March 2021 via the BNA.

Photography [journal], Volume 7 page 399. Digitized by Google. Accessed March 2021.

The Royal River: The Thames From Source To Sea, 1885 by Cassell.

Handbook For Travelers In Berkshire Buckinghamshire and Oxfordshire published by John Murray 1882.

South Bucks Free Press March 22nd 1862. Newspaper copy at British Library archives accessed via the BNA March 2021 and September 17th 1875 via the Bucks Free Press Archives.

South Bucks Standard January 21st 1860. As above.

The Ivory Gate Volume One by Edward James Mortimer Collins. Published by Hurst and Blackett. Held at Oxford University Library. Digitized by Google.

Article - The Anglers Map of the Thames by F C Parker, in Fishing, Fish Culture and The Aquarium Journal May 1886, digitized by Google and accessed April 2021. 

Bucks Chronicle and Bucks Gazette, 01 January 1859, as above

Written by Charlotte Day. Researched by Charlotte Day and Kathryn Day.

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Friday, November 26, 2021

Unpleasant Odours And Unseemly Sights - Ebenezer and Baptist Chapels, Marlow



The Baptist Church in Glade Road is not the first baptist place of worship to have existed in Marlow. The move to Glade Road was not without controversy as you will see below! 

It is hard to pinpoint the exact first places of Baptist worship within the town. We know they were active here for at least 20 years before they erected their first little chapel in Dean Street. They held their "anniversary" meetings outside, in the "Crown Close" in the 1830's - this is referring to the field later usually called Crown Meadow, now Riley Recreation Ground. Open air preaching wasn't unusual at the time but no doubt they would try and hire some indoor accomodation if funds and numbers allowed. We do know that the chapel erected in Dean Street in 1855, was consistently called their first "proper" place of worship in Marlow. 

Dean Street was a populous and working class area of town. The Baptist chapel, or Ebenezer Chapel as it was often known, was small with 150 sittings. Work began on it in 1855 and it was opened in the late summer of the following year. It was later said the congregation quickly realised the limitations of the site they had chosen, as the chapel was set back from the road in a location known as Providence Place, where an infant school could also be found. It was, so the complaints went, quite out of sight. But no doubt at the time the small congregation chose the best site they could afford. Above the door was the stern words to "Stand by the right with all thy might". 

The man who was regarded as largely responsible for bringing the Baptist mission to Marlow was builder, insurance agent and tax assessor/collector William Crake* of Chapel Street. It was he who actually built the Dean Street chapel. 

They then began their work amongst the poorer citizens of Marlow. In 1859 they began offering lectures for "the working classes" on various subjects. Naturally most of these had a religious or moral theme but this was not exclusively so. Another focus of their work was to encourage abstinence from alcohol. Dean Street was an area full of public houses and beer shops so this was not the easiest of tasks. Many of the Baptists such as William Crake mentioned above were life long abstainers. The first anniversary of the Sunday School or Sabbath School as it was usually known, saw special services in the chapel. It was so crowded that a platform was erected "on top of the pews" to accommodate more worshippers. At this event, a brick and stone model of the Ebenezer Chapel was exhibited. It had been created by one of the talented teachers there. The success of the school had "exceeded the most sanguine expectations". 



In 1865 the chapel was closed for several months so that a new Sunday school room could be built and other repairs and improvements could be completed. It was repainted too. Clearly the congregation invested in the site because they expected to stay there for the foreseeable future. 


 In the 1880's the church began to consider a new home. They felt they needed more space and there was no further room to expand where they were. Glade Road was an area undergoing a lot of development at the time and there was a number of empty plots to choose from. They secured the current site for £195 in 1884 and Marlow builder Arthur Corby won the tender to erect the new chapel at a cost of £950. The building committee consisted of Rev John Bray who came to Marlow from Fyfield in 1883, D Clarke of High Wycombe, and Marlow men John Birdseye, William Crake, W Piercy, and J Chilton. The architect was Maidenhead's C A Wardy. 

Work progressed quickly. The foundation stone was laid in March 1884, and the building was officially opened in July of the same year. But the eager worshippers began to use the site when the building was not even complete. The first services were held there in April 1884. This keenness to leave Dean Street was interpreted in various ways. Some saw it as eagerness and pride in what their fundraising had achieved in a short time. Others thought the haste indecent, and that the chapel was abandoning it's poor neighbourhood for a more salubrious one. The reporter in the Maidenhead Advertiser said he was himself not at all surprised in their hurry to "be quit of the unpleasant odours and unseemly sights of Dean Street" in favour of a well to do location that would allow worshippers to approach "their tabernacle through a more genial and healthy atmosphere." Unfortunately for the residents of Dean Street, moving to less crowded and healthier parts of town was a distant dream. Was this criticism fair? The Baptists did not give up working with the poor in Marlow. The move allowed them to have more room for the Sunday school amongst other things. But to some, the move was still an admission of failure. The same local reporter mentioned above said that the Baptists had failed to attract many worshippers from the Dean Street area despite being based in its midst so they might as well make room for another group like the Salvation Army more "fitted" for the work. The Salvation Army did indeed become active in Marlow shortly afterwards, and they did host many open air meetings in Dean Street and nearby. 

Despite the controversy, most believed the new building was at least an attractive addition to the town. A special service to open it was conducted by the Rev W Lewis of St Albans. It looks different now to then as the fascia was rebuilt in 1932. The new Sunday school did well, with the youngsters enjoying of course an annual outing. Burnham Beeches was a perennially favourite destination. In 1889 the children had a merry time playing sports and games at Bencombe Farm in Marlow Bottom. The winners of several races came away with "useful" prizes. This was followed by a grand tea at the farm. 

The old chapel in Providence Place, Dean Street is long demolished but it was used by the Parish Church as a Mission Room after the Baptists left. They previously had used a converted cottage. You can read more about the mission rooms here

The Glade Road chapel is still in use by the Baptist congregation.  

Related Posts:

*Biography of William Crake here

For more on Dean Street or Glade Road see the menu here.

Similar posts to this can also be found under Church Related menu here

All mentions of a person on this blog are listed on the Person Index on the top drop down menu. There are 6,000 people listed there as of March 2023. 

Written and researched by Kathryn Day. 

Sources:

The Church: Volume 1-8, 1883. 

Reading Mercury 6 July 1839, 23 August 1856, 9 February 1859, 3 November 1883,12 July 1884, all at British Library Archive and accessed via the BNA. 

1883 and 1939 Kelly's Directory (Kelly's Directories Ltd)


©Marlow Ancestors 


 

Tuesday, July 6, 2021

The Loss Of Old Marlow Church *UPDATED*

 


The chancel date of 1875 commemorated. 


If a visitor was to stand and look at our current delightful All Saints Church, it's hard to imagine that many would describe it as "a pile of deformity", hideously ugly or unfit for viewing up close. But these are all descriptions chosen by contemporary visitors in the years after the new church opened in 1835. The building as it stood then did however look very different to the current one! A lot of work has gone into changing it's appearance. This post is about some of the reasons why and is also a tribute to the old church it replaced. 


The old Marlow church. 

The "ancient" structure our current church replaced was regarded by many as handsome, and full of historic memorials. In 1801 it's interior was described as "plain and decent" with an ancient stone screen , handsome carved oak altar and a large hand organ in the front gallery dating from 1775.  But those who had to work within it felt the building was showing it's age, with a leaky roof, damp and frequent inundations by flood water making the situation worse. In 1730 the church is described as a long low building consisting of the tower, 3 aisles, two chancels and "on the south west part was a chantry chapel in honour of St Mary". (The chantry was dissolved in 1547 and was still standing in 1730 according to some but then used as a "timber warehouse". More on that will follow.) 


 The wooden spire dating from 1627 needed periodic repainting - it was white in colour - and suffered weather damage fairly often. A workman, 20 year old carpenter William Gray of Cookham Dean, was engaged in doing some of this repainting of the spire in 1791. The pulley he was standing on gave way taking some scaffolding with it and causing him to fall 75ft. He escaped with relatively minor injuries, and no broken bones. This story got embellished a little in later retelling, with some saying he did not receive any injury at all. But poor William did suffer severe bruising of his back and loins and a lacerated right hand and it was originally thought he might have suffered an internal rupture. But 8 days later he was able to walk home from Marlow to Cookham Dean. A black line was painted on the steeple to show the place William fell from and to commemorate his death defying plunge. He was lucky enough to receive an allowance of 7s a week from Lady Le Despencer until such time as he could resume his work.  Another feature of the steeple was the new weather cock erected in 1745. 


Various dates have been given for the steeple and parts of the tower below collapsing, but on going back to the original sources it's clear the two incidents happened separately. The tower had "for some time past been dismantled of its curious steeple" in September 1829, according to a press article complaining about the very slow progress being made with a projected repair (after weather damage). This date is seconded by a separate newspaper which bemoaned the fact the tower had been without it's steeple for 2 weeks in August 1829. The tower had also been "despoiled of its coating" and looked like an emblem of "majesty in distress". Not much progress had been made in December so the church wardens promised to do something to protect the bells over winter. The Reading Mercury thought the tower had been ruined by bad building work and thought it would take an architect of "superior intellect" to sort it all out. A separate storm did more damage in 1830. A cap was put on the tower which was dismissively described as looking like a cucumber frame but yet more poor weather bought this crashing to the ground along with parts of the tower, and the last remains of the steeple framework, in December 1831. Some graves were broken by this fall. 


In decay

In 1826 the church was described as in a state of general decay. The rector and the Dean and Chapter of Gloucester was supposed to maintain the chancel of the church, but they leased out the right to collect the grand tithes and with it the responsibility of doing the repairs. And so little funds were actually given to the church to do any maintenance with. Repairing the church became an election issue with various candidates promising to fix it along with the bridge but no progress was made. 


In 1829, not only was the steeple down, but work was ongoing to build the new Marlow Bridge adjacent. This was a difficult project for all kinds of reasons, which has been covered by a different post which you can read  here.  As part of the work to provide foundations for the bridge, a "chasm" had been opened up beneath the church tower and poor weather saw it fill with water. Some speculated that this pit was damaging the foundations of the church tower. There were sarcastic comments about how much deeper the pit would be made, and the great expense that seemed to be involved in digging it. 


A decision was made that it would be better value for money to knock down all of the old church and build a fine new one that would make a fine companion to the new suspension bridge. There were a lot of arguements about how the new build was to be paid for. Some individuals did make donations towards it's cost and a loan of £7,000 was to be secured on the church rates. But in the end an extra church rate was going to be levied for the next 40 years payable by those also liable for the poor rate whether they attended the church or not. This caused outrage in some quarters. Why couldn't the Dean and Chapter dip into their own coffers for once it was asked. 




Foundations probed

A church committee selected Charles Frederick Inwood as the architect for their new building. A vote was held to consider whether to position it on exactly the same site of the old, or whether to move it a (very) little closer to the High Street. The new site was selected on a 6-5 majority, with the latter option winning. This was not without controversy as it was considered to add needlessly to the cost by some. A couple of thatched "wretched looking hovels" which were located  "in the churchyard"  and a small beer house nearby had to be removed but the Act allowing for the rebuilding of the church had not made provision for the compulsory purchase of these. So the owner held out for a good price. Some asked whether it would be (or should be) lawful for a beer house to be so close to a church. It does seem they were eventually cleared away though. The new site also meant some graves had to be carefully moved, which upset others. 


In October 1831 the site was more or less fixed and tenders were sought for it's construction. William Bond of Marlow won. Later in the month the workmen were probing for a good foundation and in November they began to demolish the old place. The congregation could not continue to worship in a church due for demolition so they met instead at the former workshop of Washbourne's satin stitch manufactory off Quoiting Square/Oxford Road, a place later used for the first Salvation Army Headquarters in the town. They would stay there until June 1835. 


Marlow church is falling down..or is it? 

The problem the old church had with flooding was definite, and a new slightly higher site did improve things even if it was not the means to totally avoid such problems. 


As for the other issues, the demolition of the old church gave plenty of food for thought for those who believed that the church authorities had much exaggerated the supposed dilapidated state of the old building. They were amused by the difficulties involved in demolishing a church that was supposed to be just about ready to fall down of it's own accord. The old "clunch" (hard chalk) building blocks proved hard work to break apart - "it appeared strange that so much apprehension of it's security had been excited". [A group of Marlow residents had petitioned Parliament not to pass the act allowing demolition of the church, at least not until they had closely looked into the buildings reported bad condition and the causes of it - "examine into the Condition of the Said Church, which the petitioners conceive to have been unnecessarily pulled to pieces" It was unsuccessful.] Later rumours were that those involved in the demolition had resorted to the use of gunpowder to complete the work! 


If the church was not so fragile the critics said, there was no reason to begin the building work before funds had been raised to pay for it without resorting to a church rate. But it was too late to complain. Demolition completed, the first stone of the new church was laid by parish clerk Samuel Barnes of St Peter's Street in January 1833. 


As the building progressed, some began to question it's appearance. Architect Inwood had exhibited his plans for the new church at the Royal Academy in 1832 and obviously those originally commissioning the building were happy with them. But it was said that "officious simpletons"  had made adjustments to the original design that ruined it's original beauty. This opinion was given by the Bucks Gazette -  who was very against the Church of England not funding church building from it's own funds. However others stated that Inwood had altered his plans in order to reduce the building cost, which no doubt would have won the approval of many. 


Upset of another kind was caused when the "tackling" used to haul a 15cwt piece of iron to the top of the steeple gave way and the entire load plummeted to the ground, making a hole 6 foot deep in the earth below. It narrowly missed two workman which must have seemed a miracle indeed. The scaffold recieved a good shaking but no injuries resulted. 


The vibrating steeple


Shortly after the church was finished it was noted that the steeple vibrated a great deal "especially when the bells were rung". (See note below.) It was considered that removing the weather vane on top at least temporarily would improve things. So a steeple jack was sent up to remove it watched by a vast crowd. In 1891 it was still noted that the cross on top could be "distinctly seen to rock" when the bells were rung. 


This was only one of many problems recorded. Twelve years after it's construction two glaring issues were raised in the Ecclesiologist magazine. First there was no chancel, despite provision in the Act of Parliament for building the church that it should be maintained at the expense of the rector as before. The other problem was the font was apparently hidden away in a side room in an "unconsecrated" part of the church. They complained the font was not visible from anywhere inside during a service as the door to the room was kept always shut. 


In 1862 more improvements were planned despite the fact the building was only 30 or so years old. It was said that the interior design was full of blunders that made the everyday life of the church difficult. The choir had made frequent complaints that the site allocated to them was not right and hampered how they sounded. So that would be moved and more space would be allowed.  The organ was in the wrong place too and would be put now in the former baptistry. With the pulpit also planned to shift position, it's hard to think of an interior part of the church that everyone was happy with.  


A pile of deformity

But it was the overall appearance of the church that upset many. There were some who were ready to praise it's modern look, even while others decried it's "weak imitation" of 15thc style.  But for the majority of guidebooks and surviving descriptions, the church was ugly, bald of ornament and/or had ruined the once pretty view. Temple Bar magazine, called it "atrociously ugly" in 1862 for example. And those who were responsible for taking down the old church were labelled "ruthless destroyers" by the Bucks Herald. 


One little part of the old church fabric was left in 1862. A hefty stone window was said to be on display in builder Thomas Corby's High Street premises. It's possible some of the other less obviously ecclesiastical materials were recycled and incorporated into other buildings where they may be sitting anonymously today. Alfred Heneage Cocks (the Victorian Marlow gentleman historian, menagerie keeper and bell ringer) was also reported to possess some of the remains of a window.  He had in addition one of two models of the old Church known to exist at that time. Cocks himself reported to the Bucks Archaeological Society of whom he was an active member, that he had recovered numerous bits of moulded stone and marble from the old church. He had them at Thames Bank during his residence there, and on leaving it for Poynetts in 1899, he offered the remains to the churchwardens. This was on condition they were incorporated into the interior of the west end of the church. The churchwardens declined this offer, so Cocks gave them to his aunt Charlotte Cocks who was living at The Glade. He said they were used as a part of a fernery there. Whether they survived is hard to say. There had been complaints that the process of disposing of the old church materials had not been at all transparent with materials sold at low prices to a selected few. 


The church is dilapidated - again

In 1872, the building cost was paid off at last. The Reverend Snaith had bad news to deliver though. He said the church had been neglected for generations (surely a slight exaggeration given it was 40 years old) and now it was in a "dreadful state of dilapidation". The state of the walls and windows was "ruinous" he said. When it rained, the roof leaked so badly that the clergy had to dodge about in order not to get soaked. He said the issues must be dealt with soon and that doing patchwork repairs and improvements would involve much more expense in the end. So a committee was started to raise subscriptions. As well as repairs, a new chancel was at last planned, and much later the wide nave would be divided with arches into 2 aisles. On the 9th September 1875 the foundation stone was laid for the chancel and it was opened on 1 September 1876, with the work costing £1924 and completed by Thomas Corby to the design of John Oldred Scott. 


Other works carried on at various times include bricking up the door that formerly faced the High Street, removing the galleries and box pews, adding new stained glass windows and replacing the flat roof with a pitched design of hand made tiles of "special tint".  And then there was the damage done by the terrible storm of 1897 - a separate post on this is here. Selling off the old pews and gas fittings in 1890 raised £7 for church funds. Even in 1889, when the church was opened after works that included the new roof and new flooring, the bitterness relating to the old church's demise could still be felt. The Bishop of Oxford, preaching on the occasion of this re opening, probably unwittingly touched a still raw nerve in his sermon. He referred to how the old church at Marlow was probably a "strong, large and ancient building which if the possessors of it had taken care in time, would have lasted until now." He added it must therefore have been demolished as it had fallen behind the times as regards convenience. 


The money spent on putting the church right was a large sum and whether it was worth it divided opinion. The book The Royal River in 1885 thought no. Despite Rev Snaith's description of the ruinous state of the church the author thought the apparent sturdy state of the fabric of the building  meant that as no emergency repairs were needed, no further funds should be wasted on it. "It is a question whether it would not have been better to have accepted its ugliness and employed the very large sums which must be expended before the work can be completed to other and more directly useful purposes." Ouch. On the other hand, the South Bucks Standard in 1900 thought that while the church of 1835 had originally been both costly and ugly, the work spent on putting it right was well spent even if had cost a very large amount in it's own right. In 1889 the paper had thought that with the new roof and old pews gone, all the church needed now was to have all of its windows replaced "in a more suitable style", the outer walls refaced in stone and flint, and the west front and steeple recast. Not much work then! 

All Saints is a beautiful church to our modern eyes, both inside and out so if you have not yet visited it, it will repay your time! 



Notes:


 The new bells were rung in the new church in February 1835, some months after the church had re opened. These first bell ringers were honoured on the 60th anniversary of the occasion with a special bell peel in their honour. The ringers were William Truss (later landlord of the Two Brewers), William Smith (tailor of the High Street),  town crier Jeffrey Truss, John Smith (cabinet maker of High Street), Thomas Coster (carpenter and lock keeper), Thomas Rosewell, (fisherman), George Creswell, (Swan landlord, farmer, timber merchant and barge owner)  and Richard Davis (pork butcher and parish constable). 


The Chapel that gave Chapel Street it's name is of uncertain location.  But a possible discovery of part of it was at least previously visible under a house in Spittal Street in the first half of the 20thc. A mention is made of a "crypt" with vaulted ceiling under this house but much pre-dating it, in a passing comment by former Marlow antique dealer Jane Toller in her book "Discovering Antiques". Jane and husband Charles lived at the Old Vicarage in the High Street in the 1930s. The "crypt" was under a front room of the Spittal Street property. It may be (if from the right period at all) associated with the hospital of St Thomas that gave Spittal Street it's name. Another even more likely hint of the chapel remains were seen at the Rookery. It was here in 1877 it was reported that workman digging foundations for the new range of stables had discovered numerous interesting items which were believed to have come from the Hermitage / Chapel. These included some 11th century silver coins, a silver seal, a stone "mantelpiece" and parts of several stone columns.


Written and researched by Kathryn Day. 


Related posts: 

The Angry roaring mist of 1897 here

List of grave images at All Saints and other Marlow area sites here

For more posts like this see Church Related on the menu here

General posts about everyday life in old Marlow here

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Britton, John; Brayley, Edward Westlake et al - Beauties Of England and Wales or, Delineations topographical, historical and descriptive, of each county - (1801)

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Wednesday, December 30, 2020

Will Summary For David Sherewood Great Marlow 1524

Transcribed by me from a will at the National Archives, Kew and then summarised here. 

DAVID SHEREWOOD  WILL PROVED 1524

Says he is whole of mind but sick in body.

Commends soul to God, the "lady Saint Mary" and all the company of heaven.

Asks burial at the churchyard at Allhallows church Marlow [otherwise called All Saints]. Left money to that church's high altar for tithes and oblations forgotten, for the church's repair and to all the church's lights. Asks for a trentel and masses to be said at Marlow church for the good of his soul and other souls. [Possibly his mother's soul too I couldn't quite read it]

Money for repair of Marlow Bridge and of the highway to Lane End.

Brother William ... shillings and a ...

Daughter Isabel money for her marriage. If she dies before then his nephews William, Reynold and Edward Sherwood get equal shares of that money.

Godson David Sherewood got sheep. Other godchildren, not named, each given money.

Rest of goods to brother Reynold so that with his other brother and the testator's father in law Leonard ?Standwayte? ?Standworthe? can dispose of them in ways that would benefit testator's soul.

Note= David was also known as Davey. The will of Margaret Sherwood of Marlow in 1528 asks for obits to be performed for the benefit of the soul of David and his wife. Margaret was the widow of Reynold Sherwood presumably the brother of David. Margaret and Reynold's wills were proved on the same day suggesting a close death, perhaps from contagious illness. Reynold also says he has a father in law Leonard Standw...suggesting that two brothers Sherwood may have married two sisters Standw...However the term father in law could also mean step father in this era.

A Reynold Sherwood also died in 1528. Both Reynold and Davy were accused of Protestant inspired blasphemy between 1518-21. 

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Tuesday, December 15, 2020

Will Summary for Robert Sands of Great Marlow 1509

ROBERT SANDS [or Sandes] OF HARLEYFORD [manor] IN THE PARISH OF GREAT MARLOW. 

Will proven 1509

Commends soul to God.

Money to the high altar of the church of Great Marlow for tithes forgotten [a standard bequest for wills in this period]. Also money to the church at Hurley.

Son John house and lands in Hambledon, Bucks plus copyhold land at ?Mo....[not Marlow]

Daughter Jane house that lies next to ...in Oxford Lane [Now Oxford Road, Marlow] with his part of one acre of land that goes with it.

Brother John Sandes the sheep that were his mother's, 4 ewes, after they have been shorn.

Ewes also to a John ?obuge.

To Johan [Joan, reflects the 2 syllable pronunciation of the name in the early 1500s] "my ....", an ewe.

After debts and bequests paid rest of his goods to go to his wife Margaret so that she can dispose of them as best would please God and "for the health of my soule"

Executors, who both receive money for their efforts, Richard Andrews and John S....

Will witnesses John Clerk who will says was a chaplain, John ...lcotte, John Sobrigge, and Thomas Bo...d...

Transcription summary by Charlotte Day. Will is held at the National Archives, Kew. Apologies for not being able to make out all the names in this will.

Robert was the son of William Sands / Sandes also of Harleyford. Robert's son John seems to have disputed his lack of inheritance of Harleyford property (which isn't mentioned in this will).

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The will can be found at the National Archives, Kew. I was not able to read all of it. If this is your ancestor or person of interest I recommend having a look at the will yourself.





Sunday, October 11, 2020

Holy Trinity Church, Great Marlow, Trinity Road (formerly known as Gun Lane, Trinity Lane and Road)



In 1892, the vicar chided mourners for placing artificial flowers in glass cases on the graves. This was he said a "foreign habit" which did not teach the "truth of resurrection" in the same way as real flowers did. The habit would be gently and kindly discouraged he said. 

















 Photos by Kathryn Day. Holy Trinity Church (disused as a place of worship. Now a hairdressers).

To read about Charlotte Cocks of the Glade in Marlow who was very involved in this church see here



We have photos of all the gravestones which are still standing and that can be read, these are being uploaded onto the blog gradually. Search for people under the Graves option on the menu. There is also a church related option for more content concerning the various places of worship in Marlow.

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Sunday, August 30, 2020

Will Summary Hierom Gregory of Little Marlow 1675

Transcription by me from a will held at the National Archives, Kew and then summarised here. If you use this summary please credit to this blog but please feel free to do so.


HIEROM GREGORY, CURATE, OF LITTLE MARLOW. WILL PROVED 1675. WRITTEN 1674. [Note in other records name can be given as Hieron but is usually Hierom]

Says he weak in body but of good and perfect mind and memory.

Puts soul into hands of Almighty God.

To be buried at discretion of his executor who is his son Isaac.

Oldest son Hierom excused debt he owes plus given 5 shillings.

Edward Dunkley husband of testator's daughter Hannah excused £20 debt he owes him.

John Dunkley son of the above given £5 for his apprenticeship.

Testator's daughter Rebecca Beesley, wife of Thomas Beesley, clerk*, £50 plus household goods comprising [amongst some things I could not make out] 2 silver spoons, one dozen of the best napkins, a featherbed, 2 feather bolsters, 2 pillows, 2 pillow covers, the best sheets, 2 joined stools, the great green chair, the low red chair and a needlework cushion. Thomas himself got "the first act from the Book of Martyrs" and all Latin books testator has.

Grandchildren Charles, John and Hannah Beesley £5 each.

Daughter in law * Sarah Mark £5

Kinswoman Anne Slaughter £5

Rest of goods and chattels to son Isaac who is the executor.

Will overseers his loving brother William Bailey of Oxford and kinsman Jeremy Gregory citizen of London.

Witnessed by John Cook and Elizabeth Bulter.

*Language has changed since the 1600s. Be aware the term clerk meant vicar as well as someone in administration. The term daughter in law was used for both a step child and for a woman married to your son. As I have not researched this family further I can't say what is meant specifically by the writer of this will.

Most wills of this period had both executors and overseers. To be excused a debt you owed the will writer was also common.

Will transcription and post by Charlotte Day.

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