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Sunday, September 18, 2022

Not You Again Reuben!

Today's subject is Reuben Anderson, a man who is fair to say kept the police constables and J.Ps more than a little busy! 


The age of Reuben differs by a few years here and there when he gives it in court, on censuses and the like. He generally decides on a birth year of 1845, although he may have been a couple of years older. He was the son of George and Emma Anderson of Dean Street (more commonly known as Well End, Great Marlow at the time Reuben was born, not be confused with Well End, near Little Marlow.) Another Reuben Anderson living in Marlow in the early Victorian era was our Reubens uncle, born in Maids Moreton, Bucks. 


Reuben's father spent several spells in prison throughout the boys childhood, usually lasting a month or two, mostly relating to petty thefts and trespass after game. His was not a wealthy family, and George's work principally as a general and agricultural labourer was not necessarily regular. Dean Street was a poor and populous neighbourhood, the haunt of many a poacher. Many lived on the edge of destitution in a way that's much underestimated now. Those that didn't tended to supplement their income in many  ways, not all of them quite legal. 



Starting Young 

Reuben therefore started his somewhat shady career rather young. In 1858 the boy found himself called to the petty sessions, suspected of stealing a quantity of iron from the premises of baker John Millward in West Street. (Formerly Gibbons the tallow chandlers - see the premises here) At this point the petty sessions were held in a small and often raucous room in the Crown at the Market Square. In court, his age was given as 11 but I think he was more likely 13-15 years. Generally speaking if a resident of Dean Street was bought to the sessions room, a crowd of friends and relatives from the area would attend to offer vocal support much to the magistrates annoyance. Perhaps the same thing happened to young Reuben. Regardless, he was found guilty and sentenced to be privately whipped. This was regarded as a lenient punishment compared to time in gaol. Two months before either Reuben or his uncle of the same name had been summoned and fined for stealing underwood at Little Marlow. I suspect it was the elder of the two. 


 Reuben is often recorded as either an agricultural labourer or general labourer, that catch all term for a variety of unskilled and semi skilled work. But the type of crimes he tends to get arrested for, indicates a slightly different story. By far the most common is wilful damage to a tree or stealing underwood. Reuben isn't gathering firewood, he is collecting the type of material he needs for his sideline as a "skewerter". That is he makes wooden skewers that are sold wholesale to butchers, usually in London. It was a very common and perfectly legitimate trade in Marlow, centred around Dean Street. However it was not legal to help yourself to the wood wherever you found it locally, as almost every tree belonged to someone specifically. Some landowners sold the right to collect the skewer materials to an individual, who naturally would be at a serious disadvantage if it all had vanished come harvest time. But skewer makers like Reuben could not afford to lease woodland and it's unlikely that buying the materials from a middle man would be profitable. Snarky comments were often made about how "wealthy" the skewer makers of Marlow were, given that it was pure profit to make goods from materials obtained free and illegally. But the reality was those we have identified as long time workers in the trade were in poor (sometimes shockingly so) houses and never escaped them. It was hardly a road to riches! Reuben is also identified later as a fruiterer - another classic Dean Street occupation. In this case it was the wholesale trade that involved Reuben along with his father - he did not have a shop. This was a seasonal source of employment for him, something to add to his other sources of income. 


Reuben's punishment for the wood rustling and tree damage tended to be a fine. (For example 2d plus costs in 1861 for damaging trees belonging to magistrate Benjamin Atkinson of the Rookery.) If he could not pay, he would be forced to spend time in gaol in lieu. Sometimes the fine was demanded immediately after the case was heard, on other occasions a week or two to gather the required finds was allowed. (Two weeks in the case mentioned above.) In 1862 he was imprisoned for 3 months for stealing the lunch of a farm labourer William Harris who was working in the fields. (His accomplice James Grace recieved 2 months)



A Familiar Defendant 

1863 was an especially busy year for young Reuben. He plead guilty to 3 offences in the same petty session in January. He was at this point described as a youth "well known to police", as was his co accused in two of the offences, James Grace. First up was two charges for stealing swedes and turnips, both offences committed on the same day. The quantity of swedes was large and they were likely intended for selling on as fruiterers had the connections to sell vegetables too. The second offence occured at Blunts Farm. In both cases the young men were bought to the intention of the authorities by an "informer" Thomas Tilbury. When Reuben heard this, he had gone after Thomas and threw stones at him several hitting their mark. Hence the 3rd case for which he was summoned. For each of the first two offences, Reuben was sentenced to 1 months imprisonment with hard labour. The same sentence was awarded to his co accused who had like Reuben plead guilty. For the stone throwing, Reuben was set a high fine of £1 plus costs. As he could not pay, he was taken to prison for an additional 2 months. As he was led away, our miscreant was heard to mutter threats of dire vengeance against the informant. Thankfully for both, nothing cane of these dark mutterings - as far as public records show at least! Come October Reuben was back in front of the magistrates again. This time he was accused of stealing a higher value item, and this along with his string of previous convictions meant Reuben was remanded for trial at the Assizes. The theft involved a large quantity of straw belonging to surgeon William Hickman. This time the sentence was for one years imprisonment. His age at sentencing is given as 18. 



Father George Creates A Scene

A little under a year after his release, Reuben's father was yet again in hot water. The cause this time was a very public act of rebellion. It was November, and he was out of work as many of those with partially seasonal occupations naturally were. He applied to the Relieving Officer Mr Russell for some parish aid. Mr Russell refused to sanction any "outdoor relief" - that is an allowance of bread or money paid to George while he continued to look for work and live in his existing lodgings. Instead he said he would issue an order that George should go to "the House". That is the parish workhouse. George was furious. No one wished to be admitted there, but the parish officers had decided to crack down on the giving of aid that would allow the poor an alternative to the house. It was considered the provision of out relief made things too easy for the poor and prevented the workhouse acting as proper deterrent to the merely idle. It was noted in the newspaper reports of the events that followed that George had a "good" summer income as a fruiterer and skewer maker, the inference being if he had no money now it was because he had not spent it wisely or saved enough. (This was of course usually an attitude espoused by those who had never had to manage on such wages or live in the condition of those that did.) But it's obvious from study of others in the Anderson families position that the debts and rent arrears speedily increased over a winter when little money came in. These then had to paid out of the next summer's income.  


The following evening, George was heard to declare publicly that he would "wreck" the relieving officers home. He took a bludgeon and smashed 15 panes of glass. He made no attempt to disguise himself and was arrested immediately. It may be that Reuben acted heedlessly out of bravado or anger or both. It may also be that his situation was dire and he did what many others in Marlow did and commited a public crime certain that he would be sent to prison and provided for. We have found many examples of people doing just that, often going to confess immediately at the police station. Was prison better than the work house? Unlikely, but it perhaps carried less stigma for men in Georges situation who had often been in prison before. Whatever the motivation, George's attack earned him two months behind bars, with hard labour. It just be said the conditions of providing parish aid were not set by poor Mr Russell and he could have been dismissed if it was considered he was too lenient. 


Happier Events

In 1879 Reuben married Martha Sparkes, daughter of Maria and William, the landlords of at various times the Barge Pole, Black Boy and Fisherman's Retreat inns in St Peter's Street/Church Passage. Martha was just over a decade younger than he. The couple made their home in Oxford Road, and then St Peter's Street. See links below for detailed information about Martha's family. 


It was not exactly the quietest start in life for the couple, as in 1880 Reuben was arrested for his supposed role in the wide scale election riots in Marlow. The case against him was dismissed over uncertainty about his identification although Reuben himself did admit to being present in the area - as an innocent bystander of course. The riot is covered in more detail in a post here


And now at last we have a report of Reuben in which he is the hero. A few months after the riot, he stepped in to rescue a women who was being threatened and harassed by her brother after the siblings had quarreled. It must have been quite the novelty to appear in court as a witness! But old habits die hard and less than two months later Reuben was back at the petty sessions in the role of defendant, along with John Price. The pair had stolen some wood and both recieved hefty fines based on previous convictions for both. 


Throughout the 1880s minor convictions continue to be earned by Reuben. Charges of drunk and disorderly behaviour, being asleep while in charge of a horse and cart, and tresspass in pursuit of game for example. All resulted in fines. 


Reuben died in 1890. He was only in his forties. Poor Martha was of course even younger when she entered her widowhood. She went to live with her brother George at first, then her elderly widowed mother and youngest  brother Thomas in West Street. At this point she took to working as a laundress or washerwoman.* 



*Tragedy struck in 1907 when Martha's brother Thomas went missing and was subsequently found drowned in the Thames. The circumstances were not known. He was working for Lovell's the builder as a labourer  and carter at the time. It was considered by some that he may have been worried about a summons he had recieved for drunk driving a horse and cart presumably because a conviction may have lead to the loss of his job. He had been sleeping rough at times over the few weeks before, although he had returned home by the time he was last seen alive. Verdict: Found Drowned. Age given as 49.  


Written and researched by Kathryn Day. 




Related Posts

Sparkes family of the Barge Pole here

Index of posts about life in Dean Street when Reuben was growing up - here

The skewer trade in Marlow here

Posts linked to crime and disorder in old Marlow - here

To find every mention of an individual or family here use the A-Z Person Index in the top drop down menu. There's more than 4,000 people mentioned there! 


Sources:

Census 1841,1851,1861,1891 - transcript made by Jane Pullinger. 

Sparkes family and 1880 election rioters research by Charlotte. 

 Bucks Chronicle and Bucks Gazette 5 May 1858. From the British Library Archive and accessed via the BNA. 

Bucks Herald 27 March 1858, 25 May 1861, January 24th 1863, 10 December 1881 as above. 

Windsor and Eton Express 24 Jan 1863. As above. 

Buckinghamshire Advertiser and Free Press 24 October 1863,as above

Reading Mercury 3 December 1875, 

Slough, Eton and Windsor Observer, 21 September 1907. Slough Reference Library. 


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Friday, August 12, 2022

Tilbury Grave Hurley

 Hurley churchyard.


Archie Tilbury. Died Jan 7th 1903.

Elsie Tilbury. Died Dec 6th 1903.

Photographed March 2021.

Post by Charlotte Day.

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Wednesday, April 27, 2022

The Fountains of Dukes Place / Burroughs Grove

 The Fountain family lived in Dukes Place Great Marlow from (at least) 1908 to (at least) 1913. Peter Fountain was born 1868 in Wendover Bucks to Emmanuel, a gamekeeper for Alfred De Rothschild Esq, and Charlotte. Mary Ann his wife was née Clarke and married him in 1895. 

Peter appears on the 1881 census as a 12 year old plough boy. The following year his family suffered the loss of his baby brother Henry. The 16 month old died from convulsions brought on by severe whooping cough.

By 1891 Peter lived at "Dirty Bottom" Marlow Bottom and was an agricultural labourer lodging with a 62 year old widower James Clarke who was presumably a relative of his future wife. In the years prior to his marriage however he was working as a gamekeeper for Lord Carrington. As such he appeared in several court cases as a witness for the prosecution when poachers were bought to justice. That didn't seem to stop Peter taking an interest in poaching himself - he was fined in 1901 for stealing a nest of pheasant eggs from another man's land. At the time this was classed as poaching because pheasants were game birds. This didn't seem to stop Peter being employed in later years as a gamekeeper.

Mary Ann was born around 1869 just outside Marlow at Burroughs Grove. I saw an online tree that gave her parents as William and Mary however on the 1881 and 1891 censuses she was living at Burroughs Grove as the daughter of David and Mary Clarke. David was a farm labourer. 

In 1908 Peter was fined for being drunk in Little Marlow. This was (at least) his second conviction for public drunkenness. (Fine 10s including costs.) By then the family had moved from Burroughs Grove to Dukes Place. Greater trouble came to the family through Mary Ann a few years later. In July 1912 she was fined £1 for stealing a pair of scissors and a hairbrush from Mrs Debbin at Prospect House. Mary Ann was not a very careful thief as after the act she went for a drink at the Horns public house just down the street from Prospect House. Multiple people in the tap room saw the stolen scissors on the floor at Mary Ann's feet and the hairbrush sticking out of her pocket. In December that year she and James Clarke (perhaps her brother) were found guilty of stealing a ferret from the garden of her Dukes Place neighbour Archibald Grainger. Again careful planning was not foremost in Mary Ann's mind. The theft occurred while another neighbour Mrs Ann Tilbury from no 2* Dukes Place was visiting Mary Ann and was thus a witness to her and James disappearing into the garden and coming back with the ferret. When suspicion began to be thrown at Mary Ann and James, Mary Ann told Mrs Tilbury not to admit to having seen them with the ferret, while James tried to get rid of the incriminating animal by offering it for free to a fellow drinker in the bar of the Railway Hotel. The original intent was to sell it. James tried to say he had found the ferret in the garden of the Carpenter's Arms around the corner from Dukes Place but the court dismissed this explanation.

In May 1913 Mary Ann was jailed for two months hard labour for stealing the hand bag of another woman on the train between Cookham and Maidenhead. Her accomplice was another Marlow woman Gladys Edwards. Inside the bag was 2 sovereigns which the women split between themselves and a gold watch and chain. Gladys kept the gold items. She sold the chain to High Street jeweller Frederick Rowe. The bag was thrown down a drain to hide the evidence. When arrested Mary Ann claimed that the bag was found by Gladys on the Maidenhead platform and having asked anyone around if it was their bag, decided to keep it when it was otherwise unclaimed.

Context for this is provided by a newspaper report that later the same year Peter was brought to court for abandoning his wife and family and thus rendering them as paupers dependent on the Parish. Poor Mary Ann may have been desperate when she stole the ferret. Her youngest child Annie was then only two years old. How much of her previous stealing had been acts of desperation caused by an uncommitted breadwinner? Peter said he left his home because it was used for "improper purposes". The Bench said there was no doubt his house was "badly conducted" but that was no excuse to leave. He was sent to prison for a month. 

Four years later Peter, during WW1, was arrested in Marlow as a deserter from the army. More humiliation for Mary Ann. 

Mary Ann knew what it was like to be on the receiving end of theft. When she was six her sixteen year old neighbour Sarah Green and Green's father John were jailed for breaking into the Clarke's home via a window and stealing from a box some shoes, 2 pairs stockings, a bonnet and 2 petticoats. The loot was discovered by a constable under the Green family's kitchen floorboards. Mary Ann was out with her mother at the time. Her brother William discovered the theft.


Above, Dukes Place in 2022 including the row known as Sunlight Villas/Cottages. 

*numbering in Duke's Place seems to have altered since.


Related Posts:

All mentions of a person on this blog can be found on the A-Z person index in the top drop down menu - 4,000 plus individuals are mentioned here. 

A short biography of another, earlier Dukes Place resident Elizabeth Keen is here.

Everyday life in old Marlow post index here

Index of posts relating to specific streets, properties etc here 

Other Borroughs Grove related posts here


©Marlow Ancestors. You are very welcome to use this material for family or local history purposes with credit to this blog.

Sourced included:

Census transcriptions from microfilm. my own.

South Bucks Standard editions 18th July 1912, 11th December 1913. British Library Archives.

Bucks Herald 16th October 1875. As above.



Monday, February 28, 2022

Will Mary Keen 1724

Mary Keen widow of Great Marlow. Will written 1723 and proved 1724.

Says she weak in body but of sound mind and memory, praise be to God.

To be decently buried at the discretion of her executor.

Daughter Susan Smith gets testator's best petticoat and her cloak.

To granddaughter Ann Smith the box that was testator's daughter Hannah's box.

Daughter Grace Keen gets all of the rest of testator's wearing apparel both linen and woollen.

To each grandchild living at time of her death 2 shillings sixpence.

Son Henry gets all rest of her good's and chattels and is to pay any debts. He is appointed executor.

Will witnessed by Anne Elliott, Mary Sawyer [makes her mark], Robert Tilbury solicitor.

Notes:

In her own will the daughter Susan Smith mentioned above calls herself Susanna.

P.C.C will held at the National Archives. Transcribed by me and then summarized here.

©Marlow Ancestors. You are welcome to use my summary for family or local history purposes if you credit this blog.


Sunday, August 29, 2021

The Wheelwrights Arms list of landlords *updated May 2026*

UPDATED by  Kathryn June 2025

THE WHEELWRIGHTS ARMS AKA THE WHEELERS (Usual address Spittal Street)


Wheelwrights Arms, above as the building is today. Central chimney gone, upper windows shrunk and lower half obviously changed significantly. The pub name was at one time painted on the upper centre of the building, with Fullers brewery name below. 

1833 - Stephen East.

1839 - St. East.

1840 - Stephen East.

1844 - Robert Rockell (possibly the same Robert as at the nearby Prince Albert in 1841)

1852 "Crown Lane" suggesting at this point an entrance, perhaps even the main entrance, was on the side there.

1853 - Robert Rockell (also offers cartage and lodgings).

1861 - Robert Rockell (also a carter).

1864 - Robert Rockell.

1866 - Robert Rockall summoned for having his beerhouse open at an ilegal hour. He was serving customers at 4.30 am instead of the permitted 5am. This might seems ridiculously early but agricultural labourers were often required to be at work by 5am, or even earlier in the summer. He was fined 10 shillings.

1871- Robert Rockell (also carrier).

1872 - Robert Rockall.

1875 - Robert Rockell died, and son James took over. James defined himself as a carriage maker in 1871 when he was living at the Wheelers with his dad. 

1878 - James Rockell transferred business to James Tilbury (moved from George and Dragon).

1880 - Proposed transfer to William Lloyd refused. James Tilbury transferred licence instead to Charles Freegard.

1881 - James Freegard (born Wiltshire) .

1885 - James Freegard transferred business to James Arlett / Harlett.

1890 - Henry Ecklin passed the premises to John Henry Drewe / Dewe [probably should say John Henry Jeffs]. The pub got its swing sign board this year - useful for dating photos, although it disappears again in later Edwardian images. 

1891 - John Henry Jeffs passed it to Jesse Parsons. Jeffs was born in 1837 Warwickshire according to the census. His wife Lucy died in 1891 after a long battle with consumption which probably sparked him into wanting to leave the premises. Also in 1891 Jesse was burgled and cigars and cigarettes stolen from him. To read the sad circumstances of Lucy's death, read the post here

1892 - Jesse Parsons transferred licence to George Rogers / Rodgers. George was Sergeant in East Surrey Regiment. Jesse went to take over the Sportsman's Arms Inn in North Dean, Hughenden, Bucks.

1893 - George Rogers/Rodgers. 

1894 - "Mr Roger's Widow" [Ann]. George was buried at Holy Trinity Church but we have been unable to locate any surviving gravestone. Some members of his old Surrey regiment attend the funeral. He was only 47. 
 
1895 - Ann Rogers transferred premises to Edward Sims. Possibly a Frank Rogers might have been given a holdover in between times (conflicting evidence).

1896 - James William Rowe. 2. William Richard Rose.

1897 -  W R Rose 2. John Reading.

1898 - John Bradley.

1899 - John Bradley transferred premises to Charles Brown. John wad forced to leave as his licence had been endorsed for second time related to unruly conduct at the Wheelers. On the second occasion, it was for allowing "quarrelsome conduct" in the taproom, specifically a foul mouthed arguement between Mr & Mrs Anson that could be heard from some distance outside. When P C Marks entered the pub he also found two men drunk in there which was another black mark. The worst affected of these two drinkers, Charles Slade of Trinity Rd, was separately fined for his conduct. 

1899 - 1904 Charles Brown. Born circa 1860 in Nuffield Oxon according to the census. Wife Jane.

1907 - C Smith.

1908- structural alterations to the premises allowed.

1909 - Mr Smith. He organised a Christmas Day football match to raise money for the Cottage Hospital.

1910 - Arthur E Smith 2. Richard Lane.

1911 - Richard Lane transferred licence to George Branch.

1913- George Branch transferred licence to Wesley Hodge.

1914 Wesley Hodge transferred licence to Arthur Strange (holdover).

1915 - Arthur Strange 2. Wesley Hodge temporarily back again??

1916 - Arthur Strange transferred licence to William King of Greys, Essex.

1917 - William King to William Roberts.

1917-27 William Roberts. In 1921 he decided to sell the pub's coin-operated automatic piano. Penny a time, and it will pay you one of 10 tunes. Either he couldn't sell it or he replaced it with another model as when the pub closed in 1928 it still had an automatic piano.

1927 - Messrs Nicholson's and sons owned pub. Licenced transferred to Richard J T Marsh a retired timekeeper of Marlow Bottom.

1928 order for closure under scheme to limit the number of licenced premises in a given area. Richard J T Marsh landlord of the time (Richard James Thomas). The representative of the local J.Ps who nominate it for closure said it was a "small, rather dark and the conditions are rather poor." Sells 1&1/2 barrells of beer a week (compared to for example 5&1/2 barrells at the Bank of England in the same year). Richard said that that provides enough income for him as he receives a pension to supplement his earnings.  He had only taken in the premises that year.


To find all pub content, see the Pub Related index here. Non pub Spittal Street content is indexed here. To find all mentions of an individual see the A-Z person option on the menu. Happy hunting! 


SOURCES included

1833 Parochial Assessment working notebooks and correspondence owned by my family.

1853 Mussons and Cravens Commercial Directory

Pigots Directory 1844

Kelly's Post Office Directory -

1869,1877,1883, 1903.

Census - 1861,1871,1881,1891 

 Robson's Directory 1839

 Windsor and Eton Express, Apr 10 1875, held at British Library Archive and accessed via the BNA. 

Bucks Herald 10 Jan 1874, 26 December 1874, 18 June 1887, as above.  

Reading Mercury 19 Sept 1874, as above

South Bucks Standard, 06 January 1893, 08 Nov 1895, 2 July 1897,  19 May & 22 Sept 1899, 2nd October 1902, as above

Bucks Free Press 24th November 1911 and August 14th 1914  Bucks Free Press Archives.

1872 list of pubs and the breweries that owned them, held at Buckinghamshire County Council Archives. 

Numerous ads, licence session reports etc.



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Thursday, June 3, 2021

List Of Landlords Of The George And Dragon, The Roebuck and The Antelope Inns, Causeway, Great Marlow



The George & Dragon in 2024.

 Updated by Charlotte April 2026.

As The Roebuck / The Buck. AKA The Antelope.

1754 - Richard Keene "The Buck" Called ale house. 

1823 - William Lloyd

1824 - William Lloyd

1825 - Mr Lloyd. Sought to sue his landlord the Wethereds for knocking down a "ruinous" woodshed and stable at the premises while he was away from home. Received a token 1 farthing damages after evidence was given as to the state of the shed! The stable, in slightly better condition, had been sub divided and sub let to Mr Oxlade for use as a carpenters workshop. Mr Oxlade was naturally very aggrieved to find it pulled down! He also sued the Wethereds with more success, gaining 20s compensation. 

1830 - Elizabeth Higgs

1833 - Elizabeth Higgs

1835- Steadman Camden, owner. He bought and renamed the pub. He did not run it himself. Pub became known as....


GEORGE & DRAGON - known as The Roebuck prior to 1835, and The George for a brief time after the name change. An earlier George Inn existed in Great Marlow but not in the same location. 

1835 - Steadman Camden (Owner) I believe John Creswell is running it. To read more about Steadman Camden see the post here

1839 - James Cresswell (also carpenter) [See also The Fountain Head] 

1841 - Edward August. Census age 50 (rounded age). Wife Sarah. 

1842 - Mr August

1843 - Edward August

1844 - Edward August. Wife Sarah. Edward and Sarah moved to the High Street and kept a nursery garden near Potlands. Later he combined market gardening with inn keeping again in West Street. (Three Tuns see here) 2. John Hobbs

1847 - John Hobbs (born Medmenham, age 80 on 1851 census.)

1852 - John Hobbs

1853 - John Frampton "The George Inn"

1854 - John Frampton

1856 - Up for let but John Frampton has licence still at present. 

1857 - James Tilbury (2nd source says John Tilbury : it's not uncommon for trade directories to be out of date or mix initials/first names, 3rd source just says J Tilbury)

1859 - James Tilbury. In 1860 James is fined for keeping his premises open for the sale of beer etc before 1pm on a Sunday. At this time, the pubs were closed on Sunday mornings so as not to provide a too tempting alternative to attending divine service. Two men were found drinking at the top of the cellar steps. But as the George is close to All Saints, perhaps the drinkers had just popped in on their way there! Fine is large at 40s. 

1861 - James Tilbury (From Richmond, Surrey according to Census)

1864 - James Tilbury (James' wife Charlotte dies 1874 age 49/in 50th year)

1877 - James Tilbury  "Commercial Inn"

1879 - 1. James Tilbury (moves to Wheelwrights Arms) 2. Alfred Maskell (born Maidstone, Kent). Alfred advertised the fact he could cater for boating parties and had both stables and a lock up coach house. Alfred married Eliza George whose father ran the Coach and Horses Inn, High Wycombe.

1882 - Landlord Mr Maskell threatened with death by drunken customer William Humphrey Shaw who claimed when a policeman stopped him for being drunk and disorderly out on the Causeway that it must have been the case that Alfred had drugged his drink. There was no foundation to this. A full biography of the troublesome William is available here.

1883 - Alfred Maskell

1889 - Alfred Maskell described as a genteel and courteous man. A committee member of the Marlow Rowing Club. During his tenure the George was the usual venue for dinners and celebrations relating to the Marlow Rifle Volunteers.  2. Thomas Moon. 

1891 - Thomas Moon "The George and Dragon Hotel" Family and commercial. "Good accommodation for boating and fishing parties" Wife Annie died 1893. Her grave can be seen here



Above, top, advert from 1891. Private sitting and smoke room. Carriages let on hire. "Wines, Spirits and cigars of the best quality". 

1894  - Thomas Moon (born Etchingham, Sussex. Moon is a very Sussex last name!)

1895 - 1. Thomas Moon. 2. Alfred Turner 3. Sawyer Spence. Plans made to extensively renovate the hotel and to incorporate the adjoining house "now in the occupation of Mr Williams."

1896 - Sawyer Spence

1899 - Sawyer Spence

1902 - R. Steed. "Very good accomodation for motoring parties". 

1903 - Robert Steed

1909 - Robert Steed

1911 from Robert Steed to Charles Yates - intended as temporary transfer, I think as Robert was unwell. Later in year W T Shaw is given licence. 

1912 - William Thomas Shaw

1914 - William Thomas Shaw. Goes bankrupt this year. 

1915 - William Henry Mather 

1920 - Tom Smith "Marlow Bridge"

1925 - (Mr?) Keeling

1929 - Mr and Mrs Ernest Keeling. Described as a "residential hotel" with "modern sanitation" and good garage accomodation. Left 1931 when Harry Dallimore took over. They moved to The Crown Hotel some time between 1931-34. See here

1932 - from Harry Dallimore to Ernest William Edwards. 

1939 (possibly from 1937) - 1947 -  John Ansell, former conductor of the BBC Wireless Orchestra, music director of the Alhambra and other establishments and a composer of light music and comic operas. He died at his home in Dedmere Rise, Marlow in 1949 by which time he had left the George and Dragon.

1947 - A D Hadlow comes to take charge. He transfers from the Prince of Wales in Marlow. 

Compiled by Charlotte and Kathryn Day

Notes - Many Marlow landlords changed premises multiple times. They often had  family members running other establishments. We mainly focus on pre WW1 listings but sometimes list later names if it ties in with research we are helping with. 

The Antelope was an alternative name for the Roebuck in a time when premises are written name outside, only a pictorial  sign. The Roebuck was renamed The George and Dragon (sometimes referred to as just The George Inn in the first few years) in 1835 - There was also an earlier George Inn, in the High Street proper. 

An overview of the history of the George and Dragon can be found here


The other Causeway inn was The Swan. All of the above can also be found referred to as being in the High Street on occasion - this leads to the Causeway. 

A full list of Marlow pubs and beer houses of old can be found here 

To find other Pubs related posts see the Pub related option in the top drop down menu, and the A-Z People Index to find all mentions of your ancestor no matter how small! More detailed posts are listed in the biographies of individuals and families options in the same menu. Happy hunting! 


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SELECTED SOURCES -


1853 Mussons and Cravens Commercial Directory, (Compiled 1852)

Kelly's Post Office Directory 1854, 1859, 1864, 1899,1903,1915

1833 Parish Assessment

Archived copies of local newspapers held at British Library and accessed via the BNA: Maidenhead Advertiser 12 June 1889, Windsor and Eton Express 12 March 1825. 

Fennell, John Greville - The Rail and the Road or Tourist Anglers guide to waters and quarters. (H.Cox 1867)

Robson's Commercial Directory 1839

Census - 1851,1861,1871,1881

Pigots Directory 1823, 1830,1844

Country Life, clippings, August 1902. 

Marlow Directory and Almanack  1907 &  1915, Welbourne & Simpson. 

Marlow Directory 1891. Marlow Printing Co. 

South Bucks Free Press 17th March 1911. 

Friday, May 21, 2021

Landlords / History Royal Oak Bovingdon Green

 


Updated May 2026

Historic landlords listings are compiled from censuses, court cases, advertisements, wills, property records (some uniquely held by us) etc.

The pub building dates from the 1600s apparently. In the 1800s it was often used for coroner's inquests and sometimes for auctions too. A lovely place now but a pretty rough establishment in late Victorian times. You can find out more about Edward Collins and the pub in general in my Bovingdon Green in the 1800s post here

1794- Mr Langton the brewer leased it. 

1833-54 Edward Collins. Licence upgraded to alehouse from beerseller 1843. This was at first refused by the licensing magistrates as Edward had done nothing to stop two of his arguing customers from taking their disagreement out onto the green and brawling until one of them died. What's more he was alleged to have given the fighters lights to see by during the brawl. After the license upgrade refusal many Marlow and Bovingdon Green people wrote to the magistrates in support of Edward saying he was a man of good character who could be trusted to sell more than beer responsibly and they relented. There were greater standards expected of those who sold more than beer because other drinks were seen as more potent and thus more likely to result in addictive or unsavoury behaviour. Edward died 1854. In his will written in 1848 and proven 1854, he left all he had to his daughter Sophia Collins and niece Elizabeth ?Foley?

1859-63 Joseph Lee. A William Lee, James Lee both mentioned as living on the  premises 1863, presumably family.. James fined for being drunk at Bovingdon Green and "putting himself in a fighting attitude near the public pump" (?!?).

1863-69 James Leach

1869 - up to let for an annual rent of £15. 

1871-80 James Twitchen. Wife Alice nee Croxon. James later became a cattle dealer. James had moved from the Prince of Wales pub in Marlow when he came to Bovingdon Green. A different, older James Twitchen was at the Queen's Head Little Marlow.

1881-91 William Robinson who was originally from Scotland.

1891-93 Henry Tilbury. Wife Fanny. Henry became a farmer at Fingest. In 1892 came to assistance of a badly burned worker following a fire at nearby Blounts Farm but sadly the man passed away in Marlow Hospital. The man with his fellow workers had been drinking in the pub earlier that evening.

1893-97 Leonard Wheeler. Wife Mary. Became a farmer at Copy Farm Marlow after he left the pub. He came from a farming family at Wargrave.

1897-1902 George James Baigent. (Often referred to as James) Also a building contractor who occupied a field next to the pub in that capacity. Grew peas in a field near the pub. Victorian pub landlords often had their fingers in many business pies! Sold up 1902 and later moved to Haddenham to run a pub (Ye Olde Cider House) and building contactor business but became insolvent 1906. In 1897 James finds a dead body in a meadow adjoining his field of peas. The man thankfully died of natural causes while out gathering firewood. It was 82 year old farm labourer Richard Harris of Oxford Terrace, Marlow. 

1905-12 Charles Chantler who also kept pigs and cows and cultivated hay at Oak Farm Bovingdon Green. In his free time he played for the Marlow Working Men's Cricket Club. Wife Elizabeth. In 1909 James Chantler the brother of Charles was killed in a fight with Charles in the kitchen of the Royal Oak that began after Elizabeth refused a drunk James any whisky when she was serving at the bar. He then insulted her in her kitchen calling her a "dirty skunk". She fetched her husband saying James must be turned out of their house. James tried to hit her and attack Charles himself and so Charles fought him. James died after hitting his head when Charles pushed him down. A coroner's jury decided James had died due to his own misadventure and Charles did not have to face a manslaughter or murder charge. He and Elizabeth emigrated to Australia in 1913. Afterwards Charles wrote a letter to one of the local papers here describing his long voyage to Fremantle via South Africa on an "assisted passage scheme" He travelled to St Pancras Station, thence to Tilbury Docks where he took a tender out to his ship the Demosthenes. After examination by a doctor, he is free to find his cabin which he finds rather nice. A stop at Plymouth sees many more emigrants arrive on board. He finds the food better quality on board than he expected if very monotonous. He is also pleasantly surprised with how he manages the heat at South Africa, and the fact they are allowed a full day off ship to do some sightseeing at Cape Town. Other pleasant surprises are the good humour the other passengers manage rolling sea conditions near Africa which sees many meals upset and the fact Charles himself does not seem to have been very sea sick. On the negative side he is surprised at how roughly the luggage is handled, with many trunks burst open before they've even left London. He also encounters several fellow passengers not traveling under the assisted scheme who say they did not want to travel on an emigration ship, and that emigrants should be put in their own vessel. Charles says they did not know he himself was an emigrant when stating their prejudices! The ship crew he says treat all third passengers the same (and well ) regardless of their status otherwise however. 

1912- Joseph Podmore given licence. 

1913- Joseph Podmore transferred licence to Samuel Cluett.

1913-15 Samuel Cluett.

1915 - Temporary transfer of licence to Maurice Pitcher from Samuel Cluett granted.

1916 - Maurice Pitcher, aged 34, ran the pub and a small 20 acre farm where he raised sheep and bred cattle. He had recently married but didn't think his wife would be able to manage his businesses if he was forced to fight in WW1. There was a large number of soldiers up at Marlow Common training so there was a much larger clientele at the pub that had ever been known before. In April Maurice was granted temporary protection from military service. At the end of June his appeal for a further exemption was denied. He had tried unsuccessfully to dispose of his business in the meantime.

1917 - 39 Herbert Church.

1939-51 at least Hugh Bartlett. Hugh was an ex police sergeant who spent 4 years serving at Marlow immediately before retiring to run the Royal Oak. Hugh was one of those in the Welcome Home committee for Bovingdon Green that raised funds for returning service personnel men and women as the war came to an end.

Compiled by Charlotte Day and Kathryn Day.

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Sunday, March 7, 2021

Clayton Arms - Landlords and history


 *This post is updated as new information emerges. Last update August 2025*

1837 - pub existed (which it did not in 1833, having been most likely a carpenter's premises previously). Hosted dinner for more than 100 people in honour of Queen Victoria's Coronation. For more on the Coronation celebrations in Marlow, see here.

1838 - J. Tyler (Joseph, formerly draper of Quoiting Square, possibly previously operating as a draper in the shop next door to the pub).  Joseph was a liberal supporter. Sir William Robert Clayton was their frequent election candidate in this era, he was also a substantial landlord. When not at work in the pub Joseph served as umpire at Marlow cricket matches which were then played on Alder Meadow mostly.

1839 - Joseph Tyler started a branch of the Royal Standard Benefit society. For more information on the Slate Clubs and Benefit Societies of the Clayton Arms see our post here on poverty in Victorian Marlow. 

1847 - Jos. Tyler.

1851 - Joseph Tyler died 24th March. Age 61. 

1853 - 58 Elizabeth Tyler, wife of above.  Her first marriage was to William Lee. Biographical post on her is available here. Elizabeth died in 1858.

1859 - 72 Thomas Hall. In 1863 and 1871 said also to be a carrier, and in 1869 to be licenced to let horses and carriages. Gave evidence at an inquest when a man who came to hire a carriage to take him to Bourne End station fell down dead in the yard of the Clayton Arms. The man was a London based pianoforte tuner who had been visiting various houses in the area for his job. He died of natural causes it was found. In 1872, Sarah Hall wife of Thomas Hall died at the Clayton Arms aged just 32. Thomas moved to the Coach and Horses in West Street later that year. More here. In 1861 the Marlow Co-Operative movement started in the pub. Members clubbed together to buy cheaper groceries.

1875 - William Hall advertised that he runs Hanson cabs, and other vehicles to hire from both the Clayton Arms and the Angel Inn, Maidenhead. Getting married? William can provide a suitable vehicle for the happy couple with strictly matching horses for smartness, in a choice of grey or bay. He also had a private omnibus and large waggonette available to hire, and offered horse clipping services too. 

1877 - Robert Hall.

1878 - George Heslett.

1879 - George Heslett transferred premises to William Clifford

1883 - William Clifford. In 1890 William escapes a fine for opening his beer house before the legally permitted time on a Sunday (12.30pm at the time.) He was only 15 minutes early in opening, which he put down to having a cheap unreliable watch! He had set it by the town clock that morning. The court considers his premises to have been otherwise well conducted. 

1892 - 1.) William Clifford

             2.) Charles Smart Mitchell. The 10 month old daughter of Charles died at the Clayton Arms, Ruth Emily Mitchell.

1897 - C S  or W G Mitchell to W J Cross (holdover).

1898 Mr Cross to F Lester.

1899 - 1906 Frederick William Lester, (Born Suffolk, his children born in London. Wife Eliza born Wembley. For the grave of the Lester children see here ). Eliza is a talented pianist and presides at the Clayton Arms piano during selected gatherings such as the Christmas Suppers of the Clayton Arms Slate Club. This was a huge affair with 150-200 members on average, providing life changing benefits for the working men who were members. You can read more about them and the Clayton Arms one in particular here

1906 - Frederick Lester. (Moved to the Red Lion in 1909) 2. William John Steel.

1907 - W J Steel 2. Arthur William Towers. In 1907 the pub had an air rifle range on the premises - hopefully restricted to the lighter drinkers! 

1907 - 1914 Arthur William Towers. Left 1914 to move to Bisham where Arthur ran a boot and shoe business. He died 1944.  Wife Alice was born in Suffolk and came to the Marlow area to enter service with a local family. She died 1961, a much loved Bisham resident known for her care and attention to the sick. 

1914-15 - Francis Thomas White. Summoned for selling watered down brandy 1915.

1920 - 26 Walter Sadgrove. See grave image below.

1926 - 28 Bertha Sadgrove, widow of Walter Sadgrove. She transferred the licence eventually to Herbert? White. Sanitary arrangements were described as "disgraceful" in the building in 1928. Bertha became a live in domestic housekeeper after she left the pub before retiring to Deansfield Close. Licence transferred early in the year to Mr E. White.  The club room was then being used as a paint and furniture repair workshop. The local magistrates weren't very happy with that and wanted the internal doorway between the workshop and the rest of the pub stopped up. This would have been due to concerns that the workshop could act as a front for beer service during illegal hours. Anyone going in to the workshop as a customer could sneak through into the bar when the bar was supposed to be closed. Of course there is absolutely no evidence that anyone intended to do that. More likely Mr White was simply trying to carry on two businesses because the pub trade was very much in the doldrums. Even when times were good many landlords in order to survive had to work in supplementary trades. Mr White agreed to return the clubroom into normal pub use however as he was told that he could have a dance and music licence if he did so, with the clubroom used for the dances.

1929 - Mr E White transferred to A H Wilder.

1930s  - (from at least then, going onwards for many years) pub had a team in the Town League for darts. Always a successful team.

1930- 35 (at least) William Christopher Tilbury. Pub had some upgrade work done in 1933.

1939 - Mrs Annie Mabel Tilbury. Previously of The Queen, until it's forced closure in 1928. Annie was a native of Stokenchurch and died in Marlow in 1952. 

WW2 - During the second world war the cellars were used as a bomb shelter for the children in nearby Oxford Road infants' school.

1946- a veteran's club for those who served in the 1939-45 war was started at the pub. It met monthly.

1950 - Mrs Tilbury. Presumably the same one as above.

1950s - Pub often hosts pigeon racing club meetings and shows (and 1960s).

1954 - the brewery's live-in manager was James Wishart.

1958 - pub hosts basket and lampshade making classes for women under the auspices of the Townswomen's Guild.


Complied by Kathryn Day and Charlotte Day.





The grave of landlord Walter Alexander Sadgrove, landlord. "Alick" D. July 28 1926. (Grave in Marlow Cemetery).


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SOURCES


Numerous cross referenced wills, property deeds, and the like. 

Reports of licencing sessions, related court cases and general news reports from The South Bucks Standard, Bucks Herald and Windsor and Eton Express, held at the British Library and accessed via the BNA including :

South Bucks Standard 27 December 1879, May 17, July 5 1895, as above

Kelly's Post Office Directory 1859, 1863,1869, 1877, 1903, 1915, 1939

1853 Mussons and Cravens Commercial Directory

Robson's Directory 1839

Census 1871, 1881. Transcribed from microfilm by Charlotte.

Marlow Directory and Almanack 1907, 1915. 

Marlow Guide 1903. 

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