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Friday, February 25, 2022

The Terrible Youth Of Today - 1896 style

 

For the little children of old Marlow, playing in the streets was a common occurrence. Of course with children expected to start work sooner, and many families unable to afford bought toys, not all children had the same experiences. 


With some of the streets busy with horse drawn traffic, many of the children's games were not looked on indulgently when they interfered with the business of their elders. In the early Victorian era, "sliding" in the streets was the game of choice for many, and a perpetual cause of complaint from the adults. This was easier to do on the pre tarmac road surfaces. In the 1840 the son of draper Mr Morgan of the High Street was injured when he collided with a cart carrying manure while intent on sliding. He was not seriously hurt. 


In the 1840's complaints of children driving iron hoops along the streets became frequent. The press expressed some sympathy for the young miscreants while recognising that their play was dangerous and sometimes illegal. The children had no other place to amuse themselves in save the streets they reasoned, making their games "in some measure excusable". The Enclosure acts formalised the use of Gossmore as a recreation ground later but there was as yet no Higginson Park or Riley or Seymour recreation grounds.  


The other dangerous if common childhood amusement was to try and catch a ride on the back of passing carts and waggons, and later steam traction engines and the like. In 1903, there was a tragic accident involving this practice, the victim 7 year old Percy William Allen. Little Percy had just left school in the Causeway and was walking home, with his brother James. A lorry driven by William Skipton, in the employ of Mr Porter of Station Road, turned into the High Street. A number of little boys ran after it to try and gain a ride by clinging to the back or sides. As James and Percy reached Timberlake's Cycle and Phonograph depot, Percy ran off towards the lorry and managed to jump on to the back and hold on for a ride. The driver could not see him there but he had noticed several boys hanging onto the sides. He was heard to call to them 3-4 times to get off. Sadly Percy lost his grip and fell under the vehicle. The lorry was carrying 2 tonnes of flour so with a wheel going over the little one's head and leg, he stood no chance whatsoever. The driver heard a bump and stopped instantly. He was horrified by what had happened. It was immediately apparent the boy was beyond surgical aid. Dr Nicholson was in attendance immediately and arranged for the poor parents to be called. The kind Mrs Mundy, whose shop the accident had occured more or less outside of, would not allow the little lad to lay in the street and picked his body up and carried him into her shop. The inquest was held at the Verney Arms in Dean Street, with the jury donating their appearance fees to the family.  Mr Porter paid for the funeral - the boy was buried at Holy Trinity but the marker can no longer be seen. There was "an extraordinary amount of people in attendance to show sympathy for the bereaved parents". 


Another gripe was the frequency with which children played football in the road. Three boys, Phillip White, Benjamin Mundy, and Arthur Stroud, were fined 6d for using the highway near All Saints for a game in 1896 for example. 


A letter writer (anonymous) to the local press in 1896 thought the youth of the day were a badly behaved lot, causing "pandemonium" in the High Street during their 2 hour lunch break - and after the school finished at 4. (Long lunch was a feature of Victorian schools because many children went home to eat, and some went quite far.) And what were the young miscreants up to other than making a great deal of noise? They incessantly rang door bells, stripped fruit and flowers from gardens, played ball in the road, sat on peoples doorsteps, wrote "filthy words" on any surface their pencils would work on and in the summer bathed nude in the river. Or so the writer said. 

 


Some of those getting into trouble for "play" in the streets or on the highway were adults. Playing marbles and pitch and toss was not the preserve of just the young. The adults were suspected of gambling on the result, hence why it was frowned upon beyond logistical reasons.  The quieter lanes were favourite spots for this - with cases noted in particular in Munday Dean Lane, around Bovingdon Green and Frieth, and on Gossmore. 


Written and researched by Kathryn Day. 


Related Posts: 

Avert your eyes...bathers about! here

Posts about everyday life in old Marlow for young and old can be found here: here



To find all mentions of an individual here, use the A-Z Person Index in the top drop down menu, where at the time of writing you will find mentions of 3,045 old Marlow residents. New people added daily. 

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Wednesday, July 21, 2021

The Carrier's Arms and Star Of The Town, Wycombe Road, Great Marlow *updated June 2025*

Updated by Kathryn June 2025.

Historic landlord listing and history timeline: 

Licensed from 1848 with unknown name then. Was known as the Star Of The Town in the 1860s, a name which *may* have been inspired by the launch of Marlow's Star of The Thames boat in 1864 - see here

1861 - ? Possibly Charles Belcher, carrier. Nephew of the Johnsons of the nearby Plough. Or is it one of the Judge family? 


[1865 - Star Of The Town - Mrs Judge]


[1867 - Star Of The Town - Henry Judge, who is fined for opening his beerhouse on a Sunday despite Mrs Judge's efforts to throw the incriminating pints down into the cellar and out of sight. ]


As the Carriers Arms: 

1870 - John & Mary Ann Palmer.  John's parents also called John & Mary Palmer lived with them. John the son had previously been coachman to Major Henry Court at Wargrave. John junior was described as a carrier to Wycombe in 1873. In 1870 a poor "tramp" Ann Russell stole a pair of scissors belonging to Mary Ann from the premises and was sent to prison for six weeks as a result. Ann Russell had used the scissors to pay for lodgings at the Bear in Chapel Street. In 1872 a travelling man was charged with obtaining food and beer from Mary Ann under false pretences. The same occured in 1873 when a supper of bacon, potatoes and bread cost 6d plus 2d for a pint of beer at the Carriers.

1881 - John Palme

1883 - John Palmer 

1887 - John Palmer's chickens stolen from the premises.

1888 - John Palmer, also a carrier assisted by his wife Mary Ann. This year Mary Ann refused to buy a box of cigars offered to her by a customer, rightly suspecting them to be stolen.

1889 -  H Palmer then Benjamin Hughes

1891 - George B Hughes.

1892 - GB Hughes transferred premises to Thomas Munday. G B Hughes heads to The Plough. See here. He is later at the Black Lion,Well End, Little Marlow See here. 

1893/4 - Thomas J Mundy

1895 - Alfred Sarney (see also the Black Horse)

1896 - Alfred Sarney to Mr Sawyer, then to W A Shepherd then to Thomas Richards and finally Edward John Briggs. Difficulties arose from finding proprietor that was acceptable long term licensee to authorities. Such a parade of temporary landlords is quite frequent in Marlow! 

1898 - Samuel Ware 2. John Foster

1899 -  Mr Foster transferred to John Debenham

1907 -  John Debenham *Read about John's thwarted plans for his pub's closure and for a replacement in a new location in this post here

1911 -Mrs Lily Debenham, then holdover to Richard George Brant (who is used by brewery often to take over premises for a short time), followed by  James Belcher, who had moved from Chairmaker's Arms Dean Street. See here

1912  - Firstly Richard George Brant then later that year Walter Goddard.

1912-21 Walter Goddard.

1915 Sgt Smith of the Carrier's Arms is serving in the Oxford & Bucks Light Infantry in Flanders. 

1928- ex farmer James Holmes originally from Pewsey, Wiltshire  took over. 

1932 -James Holmes died of pneumonia following an operation. His widow Ann(e) Holmes takes over. 

1934 - Ann Holmes to Alfred Ball

1935 - Alfred George Ball to Phillip Henry Hanks. 

1937 - Sidney Juggins 

1939 - April of that year. Margaret Juggins. Her husband was serving in the RAF at the time. As he was the one compensated for the forced closure of the pub later that year she looks to have been minding the pub for him while he was thus occupied. *Update - we have confirmed that the landlord from 1937 was Sidney Juggins*


Closed - 1939 / 1940 by authorities to reduce the number of drinking establishments in town. Last landlord Sidney Charles Juggins husband of the above Margaret. The Wethered's brewery did not oppose the forced closure as they said they had enough other premises near by. The old pub was leased for emergency housing in the 40s-50s by the Minister of Housing and Marlow Urban District Council. This ceased c1957 and the owner put it up for sale as a "lucrative" development opportunity. It was demolished late 1961 and Maple Court flats were erected on the site in 1962. 


Researched by Kathryn Day and Charlotte Day.


NOTES - Many Marlow landlords switched premises over time and their family members can often be found running other pubs locally too.  

Related Posts:

There are posts on this blog about individual families associated with certain pubs, as well as on individual pubs themselves so have a look at the Pub Related index here  & don't forget the Person Index for all mentions of someone on this blog. Find it on the top drop down menu. Thousands are listed. 

Posts about life in the neighbouring streets here

More beer sellers than bakers -Temperance in Marlow here

Lists of posts about everyday life in old Great Marlow here


SOURCES Include:

South Bucks Standard, 6 January 1893, 8 November 1895, 3  1896, Bucks Herald November 3rd 1888, each copy held at British Library archives, accessed via the BNA

1872 list of Beer Sellers, Old Bucks County Archives

Kelly's Post Office Directory 1883, 1907, 1911

Census 1881, transcription from microfilm by Charlotte Day. 


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